for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

PM - because BH1910 listed them for someone who wanted to know what institutions hold the shares. I believe it right to point out that shares controlled by or on behalf of directors are not independent investing institutions.

oblo

He only responds to fluffy posts patting him on the back for being such a good googler so he won't respond to you, I have it on good authority this man works in a vegetable packing factory in admin; no big deal but just goes to show the web of deceit and lies his fantasy world revolves around. Buyer beware when taking any info from this chap as if it's not publicly known stuff it's made up.

oblomov Hi,

You say "I assume" .... assume what you like, whinge about me all you like, and post what you like, I won't be baited by you, just like on FYB when you used to post the same baiting questions and accusations

Everyone here knows how much I have got right or wrong so far on Stanelco, and they can make their own decisions, to believe what I say or not.

I am hardly likely to answer your baiting question, which has only two possible answers, either of which would bring another barrage of finger pointing from you :-

1) I have inside info
2) I don't have inside info


I fully expect you to do just like you did with all your other baiting questions on FYB, and make this into another endless saga, be my guest, the power of squelch is upon you yet again ....

Cheers,
PM

Bones Hi,

Thanks :)

Cheers,
PM

pm1, it's a fair enough question oblomov asked. i was wondering the same thing myself.

How can Paul answer that?!!

Bugz Hi,

How indeed ????

Thats typical of the questions oblomov asked on FYB, whichever answer I give, I either dig myself a big hole, or open myself up to more of those type of questions and insinuations from oblomov.

Cheers,
PM

Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes or no, please....

Paul made a statement like this: "If you think X is good then wait until you see the next X", this seems to imply he knows what the next X is, but it can also mean that he hopes the next X will be better than the previous. Clearly there is no way he can know what the next X is; so the second interpretation of his language is the correct one.

To be fair though, if he does have inside info, how can anyone expect him to say so!!

Personally I find Pauls 'knowledge' follows pretty closely with my 'understanding' of the Stanelco situation, we only seriously differ over the projected share price in 5 years!!

I also agree with him on the RNS issue. Its only going to get better, not worse.

age of reason

one really weird site. Major shareholder of SEO

I wasn't 'baiting' you Paul, and never have. If you stick your head above the parapet.......

I asked a pertinent question because you made an important statement which I felt should be questioned, which is all I ever did on FYB on I believe the 2 times we 'disagreed'. It is also what the administrators themselves did on FYB and they received the same response as I have received and so banned you for making false and misleading statements.

On every occasion I have seen you asked to justify a suspect statement you have evaded the answer by attacking the questioner.

Why cant you just admit you have no way of knowing what will be in future RNS's and stop misleading people rather than try to make me out to be the 'bad guy'? ?

Niels,

you are not quite correct because of the other of Paul's posts in which he says:-

Mock all you like about RNS's, or even imply I might have been guessing, but these words are from an E-Mail to me 4 weeks ago ....

"I hope that in the next few weeks we will be able to enlighten the market on just how good Biotec is, and how many gems exist in it."

This, when coupled with the other post, implies he is receiving direct information from Stanelco in relation to future RNS's.

'Even imply I might have been guessing' suggests he wasn't guessing but had been told in advance what would be contained in an RNS. Preposterous, thats why it needs to be challenged.

oblomov, that shows Paul revealing why he is hoping the next RNS will be good (not that he knows it will be good). Also he is not "implying" that he got the information, he tells you what it was and quotes it. Give it a rest, we both know he is an insane ramper, but he saves us all a lot of Googling time. Read the info you can verify by following the links, then make up your own mind.

Oblomov Hi,

I also said "I fully expect you to do just like you did with all your other baiting questions on FYB, and make this into another endless saga, be my guest, the power of squelch is upon you yet again ...."

Thanks for proving me right again.

Feel free to keep guessing what I do and do not know ....

Wait and see on the next few RNS's, I have not claimed what will be in them, or any of the previous one's, you can decide for yourself when they appear, whether or not they are 'bigger' than the last few .... ie whether my statements were right or wrong, until then I am sticking to discussing Stanelco.

Cheers,
PM

Hi All,

Anyone else fancy discussing Stanelco rather than me ?

Cheers,
PM

Niels Hi,

I googled this just for you :)

Shame about NOP by the way :(

Cheers,
PM

Petrol, petrol everywhere ...

http://www.theage.com.au/news/general/petrol-petrol-everywhere-/2005/10/01/1127804697071.html

In a bid to offset a global oil crisis, industries are rushing to develop cheaper and more environmentally friendly substitutes. By Rachel Wells.

WE ALL know that recent rises in world oil prices are hurting the hip pocket at the petrol pump. But take a look at this picture all of these household items contain petroleum-based products, which means it is only a matter of time before we are also forking out more for them as well. Nappies, fridges, shoes, toys, computers, cars and even everyday food items are set to become more expensive as the cost of oil-based raw materials increases, and transport and distribution soar.

According to Britain's Oil Depletion Analysis Centre, oil not only fuels 95 per cent of land, sea and air transport, and 40 per cent of the world's commercial energy, it is heavily relied upon for food production to run farm machinery and make fertilisers and pesticides. It also supplies feedstock for thousands of manufactured products, including plastics, clothing, medicines and building materials.

"We rely very heavily on oil-based materials for our everyday life. Everywhere you look, for example, there are plastics, and nearly all plastics come from oil," says Professor David Solomon, of the department of chemical and biomolecular engineering at the University of Melbourne.

"Most polymers, or plastics, we use are derived from oil including things like kids' toys, shoes, some clothing, the paint we use on our houses, the bumper bars on our cars, floor coverings like vinyl and some carpets, most of the plastic containers we use for food and drinks, the garden hose, the benchtop, the computer, all the detergents we use, food packaging, the PVC pipes in our plumbing, bike helmets, I could go on and on," he says. "Every seat at the MCG, for example, would be moulded from petrol-based plastic."

Until now, most companies have managed to absorb the increasing costs of petroleum-based raw materials, as well as the added energy and distribution costs, but industries are now saying these will have to be passed on to consumers.

Ross Hearne, general manager, corporate services, for Kimberly-Clark Australia makers of nappies, sanitary products, tissues, toilet paper and other household items says price hikes are inevitable.

"Because we use polypropylene polymers, which are oil-based, we've been hit by higher raw material prices, coupled with increased transportation and delivery costs, driven by the increased fuel prices," he says. "It's a competitive market and we've largely absorbed those costs to date but if oil prices keep rising it will have to be passed on to consumers eventually."

Julie Kearns, marketing director for toy-maker Mattel, says it is just a matter of time before the company lifts the price of toys , many of which are made from petroleum-based plastics. "Like most companies, we are very aware of the impact higher oil prices might have and, unfortunately, they do invariably get passed on to consumers in the form of price rises," says Kearns. "We will be assessing that possibility going into next year."

Most of Mattel's products are manufactured in China and Indonesia, as well as Mexico, and are distributed world-wide, meaning the company has also been hit by added distribution costs.

Mark Fink, vice-president of the Australasian Bioplastics Association, says manufacturers are seriously considering bioplastics as an alternative, as the price of oil-based plastics rises, and the industry comes to realise that the world's oil supply will eventually run out.

"A couple of years ago all the interest was about waste disposal, about products being biodegradable and compostable, now everyone is interested in using renewable resources," says Fink.

Bioplastics have similar properties to conventional petrochemical plastics, but they use renewable resources and are biodegradable. They are made using cellulose derivatives found in wood, cotton, starch and vegetable oils.

Stuart Bateman, from the CSIRO's polymer composites and nanomaterials team, says interest in bioplastics will continue to grow as oil prices rise and alternatives become more affordable. "As the price of crude oil becomes more and more expensive, the attractiveness of these materials becomes more obvious," he says.

Bateman and Fink say that packaging has been the main application for bioplastics in Australia. "Packaging has been the first focus for most companies, given that 40 per cent of the plastic used in Australia is used in packaging," says Fink. "Most packaging is single-use or has a short shelf life and therefore most environmental issues are around packaging rather than durable products like computer casing or bumper bars."

Research and development into bioplastic alternatives for more durable products, such as electronics and car parts, is growing. "More and more bio-derived materials are being used in durables, particularly overseas," says Fink. In Japan, Sony has used a bioplastic a corn-based polyactide, a plastic derived from lactic acid in some of its CD players, as well as its wrapping and packaging.

Biodegradable materials using sugar cane, corn and sweet potatoes are also being developed to replace conventional plastics in cars. Toyota has been working on bioplastics since 2001. Its ES3 concept car of 2002 had interior panels and door pillar trims made from a bioplastic derived from sweet potato starch. Mats in its Raum model, sold in Japan, are made from a bioplastic material called Eco-Plastic. Toyota says the cost of the process is only marginally higher than for conventional petroleum-based plastics.

Locally, Queensland University of Technology has teamed up with the Sugar Research Institute in Mackay to develop sugar cane strains that will allow large-scale production of bioplastics suitable for car parts, such as dashboards, and in paints and varnishes. The CSIRO is also involved in research and development for bioplastics for durable items such as car parts.

And then there's this little 'gem' ....


Fujitsu Computer Cases World's First to Use Plant-Based Plastic


Fujitsu Limited, Fujitsu Laboratories, Ltd. and Toray Industries, Inc. announced on January 13, 2005 that they have jointly developed the world's first large personal computer cases made of environmentally friendly bioplastics. The plastic is used in Fujitsu's spring 2005 model FMV-BIBLO NB80K notebook computers.

The material contains polylactic acid and is a bioplastic made from lactic acid derived from fermented starches and sugars from corn and potatoes. To use this plant-based material in computer cases and find further applications, the three companies have been working together to improve its heat and flame resistance. They faced difficulties, however, in using it in large cases and for mass production, due to the problems with molding the desired shapes, as it would turn from a hard glassy state to rubbery state at unacceptably low temperatures.

Since about 50 percent of the newly-developed plastic consists of natural materials, it can reduce the consumption of petroleum resources. When used in the case of notebook computers, it can reduce carbon dioxide emissions by about 15 percent over the entire product life-cycle, compared to conventional petroleum-based resins.



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http://www.fujitsu.com/global/news/pr/archives/month/2005/20050113-01.html

Fujitsu and Toray Develop World's First Environmentally-Friendly Large-Size Plastic Housing for Notebook PCs
Facilitates reduction of both environmental burden and petroleum consumption


Tokyo, January 13, 2005 Fujitsu Limited, Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd., and Toray Industries, Inc. today announced their joint development of the world's first large-size notebook PC plastic housing made of plant-based plastic with low environmental burden. The new environmentally-friendly plastic is used in Fujitsu's 2005 spring model FMV-BIBLO NB80K notebook PC.

The three companies plan to expand on various applications for this plastic, thereby further contributing to a reduction in the environmental burden as well as lower consumption of petroleum resources.

In recent years, environmental issues such as ozone depletion, air pollution, environmental pollution, and rapid increase of industrial waste and toxic waste, have emerged worldwide. To address these problems, there is a need for the development of a recycling-based society. Currently, various environmental laws and regulations are being legislated on a global scale, to reduce burden on the environment. The IT industry is no exception to these trends, and in Japan, environmental awareness is on the rise with a number of environmentally-related laws that been passed: the Law on Promoting Green Purchasing(1), the Law for the Promotion of Effective Utilization of Resources (2), and the Pollutant Release and Transfer Register (PRTR) Law (3).

Use of fossil fuels, such as petroleum and coal, increases CO2 in the atmosphere and causes rapid spread of the greenhouse effect, resulting in an urgent need to reduce CO2 emissions.

Given these circumstances, there is increasing interest in applications of plastics created from plant materials, as an alternative to petroleum-based plastics which are limited in resource.

In June 2002, Fujitsu and Fujitsu Laboratories announced the development of the world's first technology for plant-based plastics that could be used for small-size housing components in notebook PCs, using polylactic acid(4) derived from corn and other plants. This technology was used in one of Fujitsu's FMV-BIBLO notebook PC models.

Toray positions polylactic acid as an environmentally-friendly, advanced material and has been developing markets for fibers, textiles, plastics and films under the brand name Ecodear, while conducting ongoing research in ways to obtain better performance from polylactic acid.

In order to broaden the applications for plant-based plastics, the three companies have been improving the materials' heat resistance and flame retardance properties. The new material formerly was not suited for volume production and use in large-size housing, due to its use of polylactic acid which has low glass transition temperature(5), making it difficult to mold.

The companies have now developed a new type of plastic that uses polymer alloy technology(6) blending polylactic acid and a non-crystalline plastic with a high glass transition temperature as well as flame-retardant technology(7). These advances have resulted in a material with the heat resistance and flame retardance mandatory for a large-size housing for IT devices, which features easy moldability, making it suitable for mass production.

On the environmental front, the new plastic consists of roughly 50% natural products (including plant- based materials), reducing the use of petroleum resources. When used to manufacture a notebook PC, CO2 emissions over the product's entire lifecycle are reduced by roughly 15%, thereby further reducing the impact on the environment.

Fujitsu, Fujitsu Laboratories, and Toray plan to expand the range of uses for this new material as a way to further reduce overall environmental burden and consumption of petroleum resorces in the IT industry.

Delhaize tests NatureWorks PLA for fresh produce packaging


Oct 5,2005-NatureWorks PLA is a 100% nature-based packaging, and is an alternative to traditional petroleum-based plastics.

05/10/05 Environmentally-aware consumers in Belgium can shop with good conscience at Delhaize supermarkets thanks to the introduction of fully compostable packaging for selected fresh produce.

The supermarket chain is testing NatureWorks PLA, 100% nature-based packaging, as an alternative to traditional petroleum-based plastics for a range of food containers and bags in its Aalst store.

In-store prepared salads, and organic and traditional breads are among the foods being sold in NatureWorks PLA packaging. Currently, transparent delicatessen salad trays and the window on bread bags used by its bakeries are made from the natural material. Stickers and posters are ensuring that shoppers are aware that the packaging can be commercially composted.

NatureWorks PLA (polylactide) is completely derived from annually renewable resources. The technology used to produce the material harvests the starch stored in these annually renewable resources (i.e. corn) into natural plant sugars. The sugar is then fermented into lactic acid which is used to create a clear plastic known as polylactide. NatureWorks PLA containers decompose in industrial compost according to standard EN13432.

Another 'build up' announcement as we head towards the big show ????


October 07, 2005 11:05 AM US Eastern Timezone

NatureWorks LLC Announces World's First Greenhouse-Gas-Neutral Polymer

MINNETONKA, Minn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 7, 2005--NatureWorks LLC announced today that it will achieve a greenhouse-gas-neutral position for NatureWorks(R) PLA, making it the first, commercially available greenhouse-gas-neutral polymer in the industry.


The achievement of this milestone will give the corn-derived polymer another competitive advantage versus petroleum-based plastics, such as PET. It offers customers in Europe, Asia and North America a meaningful way to help achieve compliance with the Kyoto Protocol for reduction of greenhouse gases.

NatureWorks will achieve the greenhouse-gas-neutral position through the purchase of renewable energy certificates (RECs), which serve as an offset to cover all of the emissions from the energy used for the production of NatureWorks PLA. The certificates ensure the production of renewable energy in an amount equal to that of the non-renewable energy used by NatureWorks LLC. The net result will be a 68 percent reduction in fossil fuel use compared to traditional plastics from the manufacture of NatureWorks PLA compared with traditional plastics. (Even before this announcement, NatureWorks had represented a 30-50 percent reduction in fossil fuel use and a 30-55 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions versus petroleum-based polymers.)

"NatureWorks is committed to product and process innovations that deliver valuable solutions to our global customer base," said NatureWorks LLC Vice President and Chief Marketing Officer, Dennis McGrew. "Strengthening the already-superior environmental attributes of our polymer, this greenhouse-gas-neutral position makes NatureWorks PLA an even more attractive option for retailers and brand owners seeking to reduce their environmental footprint - specifically for packaging applications."

As a partner in the Green Power Market Development Group, NatureWorks researched a number of alternative energy sources that would allow it to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions. RECs provide for affordable, pollution-free electricity that does not add to the depletion of natural resources such as coal, oil or gas, or cause environmental damage through resource extraction and transportation.

NatureWorks will be purchasing renewable energy certificates from a variety of U.S. Midwest projects - including wind, hydro and solar - in Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, North Dakota and South Dakota. The company will be purchasing enough certificates to cover projected 2006 production at its 300-million-pound (140,000-metric-ton) capacity manufacturing plant and the world's largest lactic acid plant (400-million-pound or 182,000-metric-ton capacity) in Blair, Neb., as well as at its corporate offices in Minnetonka, Minn. The amount of energy NatureWorks will be purchasing, 59,000 mega-watt hours per year, is equivalent to the amount needed to power 6,300 homes for one year. This purchase of RECs will make NatureWorks one of the top ten corporate buyers of renewable energy certificates in the United States(a).

"I commend NatureWorks LLC for purchasing renewable energy certificates to make NatureWorks PLA polymer a greenhouse gas-neutral product," said Jonathan Lash, president of the World Resources Institute. "WRI encourages others to follow the company's lead in making their products and manufacturing processes more climate-friendly."

"Arriving at a greenhouse-gas-neutral polymer is a significant milestone in the journey for NatureWorks, but this is not an endpoint," stated McGrew. "As a company, we will continue to research and invest in new technologies to create an even more responsible product and provide our customers with innovative solutions."

About NatureWorks LLC

NatureWorks LLC is a stand-alone company wholly owned by Cargill. Dedicated to meeting the world's needs today without compromising the earth's ability to meet the needs of tomorrow, NatureWorks LLC is the first company to offer a family of commercially available polymers derived from 100 percent annually renewable resources with cost and performance that compete with petroleum-based packaging materials and fibers. The company applies its unique technology to the processing of natural plant sugars to create a proprietary polylactide polymer, which is marketed under the NatureWorks(R) PLA and Ingeo(R) fibers brand names. For more information about NatureWorks and its brands, please visit www.natureworksllc.com.

(a) Based on data gathered by the World Resources Institute and Environmental Protection Agency.

NatureWorks, Ingeo and the EcoPLA design are registered trademarks of NatureWorks LLC

Amities / OB: You are wasting your time even asking PM1 the most basic , simple and obvious questions reg. SEO . As Shamona has ably and candidly pointed out all we get is a plethora of incessant Google searches in addition to an abundance of utter deception and duplicity based on his erroneous definition of statements emanating from the press . Not even the seeds of an original idea exist in the mans head ln fact the very questions that need addressing he deliberately prevaricates .But lost in his surreal hinterland of self importance lurks an individual with an agenda . l pose the question again . No matter how attracted to a company you may be;Would you design a f$%&* website for them without percuniary recompensense . l think not. . The individual is a total FRAUD !!! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,@+ J