Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred,

I Googled Azura Cerise this morning - I knew the name was familiar.

Only 0.99 € a punnet in my local Intermarche during the summer.

:o)

I had no knowledge of Azura until yesterday!

I tried google and Wiki.

Neither had they!

But I liked the poem.

The poem brought back dim and distant memories.

Very dim and very distant.

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s opposition Labour Party said Prime Minister Theresa May had failed to win meaningful changes to her Brexit divorce deal at a summit with European leaders.

“It seems that the Prime Minister has failed in her bid to deliver meaningful changes to her Brexit deal,” Labour’s Brexit spokesman, Keir Starmer, said.

“We cannot go on like this. The Prime Minister should reinstate the vote on her deal next week and let Parliament take back control,” he said.

Reporting by Guy Faulconbridge; editing by Costas Pitas

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Another success for the Neo-con government who are denying parliamentary democracy!

LOL Fred - You speaking of democracy - Joker in the pack.

Then then results of the referendum should have been followed by Parliament.

I accept you may suffer from dementia but you have been reminded many times, by numerous posters that 52% voted to leave the EU - over 17 million people.

Dreadful numbers from France - The EuroZone will suffer without the UK more than they bargain for with a Clean Break.

Agree Ct, and the auto figures (3 months of decline) are only going to get worse.

gloating is fine and even understandable, but sadly it does not help the present situation in uk
of course, no one knows what will happen at the very end - the greek bailout is a good example

Greece showing signs of positive trends still cynic.

https://institut-mittelstand.com/greece-economy-growth-2018/

maybe now (no idea) but i am talking about the sabre-rattling and more that went on when they needed zillions to keep them afloat

Manuel.

You seem to be beginning to realise the dénouements and phantasies of so called "Brexit".

Keep it up!

as i've told you umpteen times, i'll live with whatever comes along
if it ultimately means that it's not worth being in business or worse, then i'll just sell up and retire

certainly if labour+corbyn+mcdonnell (ever) get in, then it won't be the retired who get clobbered the worst, but as usual, it will be the middle classes

and of course though you perpetually castigate those who voted out, you are no less culpable for not voting at all

"if labour+corbyn+mcdonnell (ever) get in,"

they will be looking out for you.

(They have a little list, you know!)

What's your address again?

8-)

PS.

How much longer do you think you have to go.

i am sure they will have a very large list to ensure they know all the middle classes who earn more than say £80k and/or live in a house that happens to be worth more than say £800k

I thought you would have disposed of you gotten gains by now.

far from it ... i still work in my own business

Tony Blair has refuted claims that a People’s Vote would be divisive for the people of the United Kingdom - instead arguing that the government continuing to push Theresa May’s doomed deal is worse.

The former Labour leader and prime minister was speaking at a People’s Vote event when he claimed that the chances of a fresh referendum now stood at more than 50%.

He said: “What seemed a few months ago unlikely is now I would say above a 50% likelihood. We will go back to the people.”

Blair said that European leaders must prepare for the “probability” that Britain will need to stay in the EU beyond March 2019 to allow for a second referendum.

He said: “Europe should prepare for the possibility now morphing into the near probability that Britain will require an extension of time to the Article 50 process, either to negotiate further or more likely to conduct a new referendum.

“We are now entering a new phase of Brexit. Government has lost the initiative. Parliament has taken it. We know the options for Brexit. Parliament will have to decide on one of them. If Parliament can’t then it should decide to go back to the people.

“Now should be the time of preparation - Parliament to make sure it can canvas the options in sensible manner, one by one, to reach agreement on an option or a referendum; Europe to ensure that if Britain is ready to think again, Europe is ready also to think again.

“All that is necessary is for leadership: in Parliament if not in government, and in Europe where despite all the myriad of challenges European leaders have, they should understand that changing Brexit would be the greatest boost to Europe’s economy and politics and that therefore, they need to focus on the part they can play and play it.”

The former Labour leader also claimed it is “bizarre” that EU leaders feel obliged to deliver Brexit despite not believing in it.

“Not one believes this course is better than Britain staying in Europe. All of them recognise that in years to come this decision will be regretted by future generations,” he said.

“Yet all feel a strange compulsion to carry on... Things do not need to be like this. We have free will. It is past time to exercise it. Brexit is not some form of natural disaster, Brexit is man-made.”

unfortunately, tony blair is trusted by no one and with good reason
perhaps he can smell another wheeze to fill his bank accounts

Spot on with your post 10865 cynic.

Trusting Tony Blair would be like giving your money to the late Ronnie Briggs to look after.