Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dreadful numbers from France - The EuroZone will suffer without the UK more than they bargain for with a Clean Break.

Agree Ct, and the auto figures (3 months of decline) are only going to get worse.

gloating is fine and even understandable, but sadly it does not help the present situation in uk
of course, no one knows what will happen at the very end - the greek bailout is a good example

Greece showing signs of positive trends still cynic.

https://institut-mittelstand.com/greece-economy-growth-2018/

maybe now (no idea) but i am talking about the sabre-rattling and more that went on when they needed zillions to keep them afloat

Manuel.

You seem to be beginning to realise the dénouements and phantasies of so called "Brexit".

Keep it up!

as i've told you umpteen times, i'll live with whatever comes along
if it ultimately means that it's not worth being in business or worse, then i'll just sell up and retire

certainly if labour+corbyn+mcdonnell (ever) get in, then it won't be the retired who get clobbered the worst, but as usual, it will be the middle classes

and of course though you perpetually castigate those who voted out, you are no less culpable for not voting at all

"if labour+corbyn+mcdonnell (ever) get in,"

they will be looking out for you.

(They have a little list, you know!)

What's your address again?

8-)

PS.

How much longer do you think you have to go.

i am sure they will have a very large list to ensure they know all the middle classes who earn more than say £80k and/or live in a house that happens to be worth more than say £800k

I thought you would have disposed of you gotten gains by now.

far from it ... i still work in my own business

Tony Blair has refuted claims that a People’s Vote would be divisive for the people of the United Kingdom - instead arguing that the government continuing to push Theresa May’s doomed deal is worse.

The former Labour leader and prime minister was speaking at a People’s Vote event when he claimed that the chances of a fresh referendum now stood at more than 50%.

He said: “What seemed a few months ago unlikely is now I would say above a 50% likelihood. We will go back to the people.”

Blair said that European leaders must prepare for the “probability” that Britain will need to stay in the EU beyond March 2019 to allow for a second referendum.

He said: “Europe should prepare for the possibility now morphing into the near probability that Britain will require an extension of time to the Article 50 process, either to negotiate further or more likely to conduct a new referendum.

“We are now entering a new phase of Brexit. Government has lost the initiative. Parliament has taken it. We know the options for Brexit. Parliament will have to decide on one of them. If Parliament can’t then it should decide to go back to the people.

“Now should be the time of preparation - Parliament to make sure it can canvas the options in sensible manner, one by one, to reach agreement on an option or a referendum; Europe to ensure that if Britain is ready to think again, Europe is ready also to think again.

“All that is necessary is for leadership: in Parliament if not in government, and in Europe where despite all the myriad of challenges European leaders have, they should understand that changing Brexit would be the greatest boost to Europe’s economy and politics and that therefore, they need to focus on the part they can play and play it.”

The former Labour leader also claimed it is “bizarre” that EU leaders feel obliged to deliver Brexit despite not believing in it.

“Not one believes this course is better than Britain staying in Europe. All of them recognise that in years to come this decision will be regretted by future generations,” he said.

“Yet all feel a strange compulsion to carry on... Things do not need to be like this. We have free will. It is past time to exercise it. Brexit is not some form of natural disaster, Brexit is man-made.”

unfortunately, tony blair is trusted by no one and with good reason
perhaps he can smell another wheeze to fill his bank accounts

Spot on with your post 10865 cynic.

Trusting Tony Blair would be like giving your money to the late Ronnie Briggs to look after.

He still has aspirations to be President of Europe or The UK if and when.

I had no problem with TB as PM it was like having a Conservative PM hence why is he so hated by the raving socialists ( Cue Stan and Fred )

As someone on QT pointed out last night , the last vote was a people's vote not a bloody android vote.

Cynic , don't forget Abbott as Home Secetary ... gawd help us.

I'm with you on that M but was a good job Brown talked him out of joining the Euro.

More Blair talks up a re run of the referendum the more Corby will be against it.

Keep up the good work Tony.

Martini,

Were you referring to Nebula May, crawling around Europe?

Stop trying to bark and get back, where you belong, in your kennel with Dil.

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The tory and neo-cons' smears are wearing thin and they are running scared of a general election.

They are frightened of another referendum on "exiting" or not from the EU. and hypocritically braying about their so-called democratic principles. but prepared to break any contract or treaty which doesn't suit.

Dishonourable, disgraceful and disreputable behaviour as is being pointed out to their icon in Brussels.

Gutter politics.

The present tory mob and fellow travellers have created the EU problems and incapable of remedying them or admit their responsibilities.

Blaming anybody else for their failures as diversions rather than admitting them and resigning.

Their leadership is not even believed by members of their own party.

The cons don't want to reject Nebula and frightened to get rid of her because when they look for possible replacements in their own party of double-crosses the fields appear barren.

What a tribe.