cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
Balerboy
- 13 Feb 2013 08:45
- 10881 of 21973
with cream???
Toya
- 13 Feb 2013 08:49
- 10882 of 21973
Thanks chaps. I'm not so keen on the spots in the dick. I shall have my sticky toffee pudding (with dates) and custard
cynic
- 13 Feb 2013 08:50
- 10883 of 21973
more likely to be pus-coloured custard
Balerboy
- 13 Feb 2013 08:51
- 10884 of 21973
he always drags it down........lol
Davai
- 13 Feb 2013 09:14
- 10885 of 21973
Mmmmmm slice of hairy pie....
Shortie
- 13 Feb 2013 09:33
- 10886 of 21973
Last nights DFT dividend on the FTSE100 was a biggie Toya, would have been paid to you however if you were long, I feel your pain as also got slapped with this...
skinny
- 13 Feb 2013 09:35
- 10887 of 21973
Et moi!
skinny
- 13 Feb 2013 09:40
- 10888 of 21973
Shortie/Toya - when and how often is that levied - I don't recall seeing it before, "price adjustment" my eye!
skinny
- 13 Feb 2013 10:04
- 10889 of 21973
EUR Industrial Production m/m 0.7% consensus 0.3% previous -0.7%
Toya
- 13 Feb 2013 10:20
- 10890 of 21973
Skinny: yes, complete pain, and I never know when it's going to happen, though I think there is some logic to it somewhere. I've been caught out once before. But as Shortie says: if we'd been Long then we'd have had a nice bonus!
Well, I'll just have to earn that back - I thought things had been going too well recently...
skinny
- 13 Feb 2013 10:22
- 10891 of 21973
I wonder if that explains my disparity in FTSE prices yesterday evening between IG & CMC just after our close?
Toya
- 13 Feb 2013 10:27
- 10892 of 21973
I think that was the time it was applied Skinny - cos I remember that at around that time I thought I had plenty of margin and the next it seemed to have vanished!
skinny
- 13 Feb 2013 10:29
- 10893 of 21973
It looks like it was applied @22:00 - I had the disparity much earlier - I must find out as and when it is levied - I don't recall having fallen foul of it before.
Toya
- 13 Feb 2013 10:32
- 10894 of 21973
The money definitely went out of my account before 18:00 last night.
Toya
- 13 Feb 2013 10:35
- 10895 of 21973
Skinny, this is the info gives on IG:
A ‘Dividend Adjustment’ refers to an adjustment we make to your account when a share passes its ex-dividend date (including the ex-date of any special dividend) in the underlying stock market.
In the case of long positions, we will credit the dividend adjustment to your account.
In the case of short positions, we will debit the dividend adjustment from your account.
Please note: Stock Index dividend adjustments will be posted to your account after market close the day before the ex-dividend date and will be based on an estimation of the dividend amount.
All the details above should be used for guidance only. Subject to the terms of any Corporate Action your positions could be treated and adjusted in a different manner without prior notice.
skinny
- 13 Feb 2013 10:37
- 10896 of 21973
Ok - that looks like it is levied normally on a Tuesday evening - some big FTSE ex dividends today AZN, BP, RDSB etc.
If I knew about it - I've obviously forgotten now :-(
Toya
- 13 Feb 2013 10:40
- 10897 of 21973
Here's a bit more info from IG. I have heard about 'Dividend Tuesday' so we should watch out in future! If you search on Google for that phrase you'll find loads of info.
What happens when a stock or index goes ex-dividend
When a company goes ex-dividend (that is, they pay a dividend to shareholders) the value of the share will generally fall by the same amount as the dividend. Since a stock index is made up of a number of companies, the fall in value of the shares will also cause a fall in the value of the index.
Why we make the adjustment
When the price of a stock or index drops after going ex-dividend, your running profit & loss (P&L) is affected. If you’re long, this means you miss out on potential profit. If you’re short, this means your P&L is better than it should be.
Given that the drop in price is an expected market movement, we must make an adjustment so that your P&L is not affected.
How we calculate the dividend adjustment
Adjustment = size of your position x dividend amount
The dividend amount will vary depending on the company or index. We usually use the dividend amount listed on Bloomberg.
When dividend adjustments occur
For the FTSE 100 we adjust our price on most Tuesday afternoons; some weeks there may be no adjustment needed. For the Wall Street its ad-hoc, so it could be every day.
Chris Carson
- 13 Feb 2013 10:51
- 10898 of 21973
Discussed accross the road on FX thread most weeks skinny.
Toya
- 13 Feb 2013 11:07
- 10900 of 21973
Thanks Iain
Today's most important factor will be the US Retail Report at 13:30 (UK time):
'Economists polled by MarketWatch are estimating that retail sales were flat in January, versus a rise of 0.5% in December. It’s the first report to be released since taxes for millions of Americans rose. Markets are expected to be sensitive to any number that veers far north or south of projections.'