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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 14 Dec 2018 22:16 - 10883 of 12628

Happy days, Fred is moving to Scotland to fight for a re run up there.

Even happier days Fred , daughter that's in Iceland text me this morning saying she passed her final ACA exams.

Stan , ignored it a couple of days ago but up yours on your opinion of accountants and solicitors :-)

Stan - 14 Dec 2018 22:55 - 10884 of 12628

Don't tell me Dill I could have guessed it... your a poxy accountant 🧐

MaxK - 14 Dec 2018 23:55 - 10885 of 12628

lol :-)

cynic - 15 Dec 2018 08:08 - 10886 of 12628

scotland could not remotely be independent
as crude has collapsed, so has much of its economy ..... aberdeen was never a pretty city, but it is now rather a sad place with a number of large hotels going out of business

Stan - 15 Dec 2018 08:41 - 10887 of 12628

What do you know Alf you only play golf up there...and your useless at that as well 😆

cynic - 15 Dec 2018 08:53 - 10888 of 12628

i agree that my golf is useless, but amazingly i have clients in aberdeen
have never had the courage to take up the open offer to play the trump course ..... i believe it's fantastic, but very long and difficult .... shame that buggies are effectively obligatory, or so i believe

Stan - 15 Dec 2018 09:10 - 10889 of 12628

...Ah yes I forgot about your "slippery connections" been to Aberdeen years ago possibly before we stuck oil on a Scotland tour, the granite city. CC lives up there as well I think.

cynic - 15 Dec 2018 09:18 - 10890 of 12628

gosh; had forgotten about him and yes he does
polar bears will be strolling the streets in a few weeks

Stan - 15 Dec 2018 09:28 - 10891 of 12628

Certainly brass monkey weather on the North coastal east side of the UK.

Cerise Noire Girl - 15 Dec 2018 09:31 - 10892 of 12628

Max,

Your petition has 69k signatures. The Independent's Final Say petition had over a million signatures when it was handed in at Downing Street last week.

Even Nigel Farage is now saying that there WILL be a second referendum. He's getting the troops to dust off their Sovereign Shopriders and mobilise for action.

:o)

Dilbert,

Congratulations to your daughter. Dunno if I misunderstood, but is she in Iceland for her exams, or was that totally unrelated?

:o)

Fred1new - 15 Dec 2018 10:08 - 10893 of 12628

Dil,

Congratulations to your daughter, she must have an intelligent mother.

Fred1new - 15 Dec 2018 10:08 - 10894 of 12628

Dil - 15 Dec 2018 10:42 - 10895 of 12628

Of course her mothers intelligent Fred , she married me for starters.

Hils , I mentioned going to Heathrow the other day and Fred hoped I had a one way ticket to somewhere so explained it was to drop my daughter off as she was visiting Iceland so he was out of luck.

As for a second referendum , I don't think they've got the numbers even for that. She's definitely running the clock down and even after the meaningful vote she's got another 21 days to come up with plan B I think.

This is going to the wire.

Fred1new - 15 Dec 2018 12:07 - 10896 of 12628

Cerise Noire Girl - 15 Dec 2018 12:24 - 10897 of 12628

Oh I see, Dilbert.

Any chance she could bring back a few packs of their frozen sausage rolls?

:o)

Dil - 15 Dec 2018 13:06 - 10898 of 12628

Stick to the day job cos you really aren't funny :-)

MaxK - 15 Dec 2018 19:18 - 10899 of 12628

Hilly

Over the 100k hurdle now. And no, a private peep cant compete with Sky.


https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963

Fred1new - 16 Dec 2018 09:08 - 10900 of 12628

Dil's and Iy's Hopes,

Fred1new - 16 Dec 2018 14:19 - 10901 of 12628

The Dils,
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/16/failed-by-both-major-parties-betrayed-britain-lurches-towards-the-abyss

The most deserved losers are the Brexit ultras. They finally launched their leadership coup and failed miserably. Without a plausible plan or a credible leader, these are the men who put the ass into assassin. After all their prating about “taking back control”, they couldn’t even organise the removal of a mortally wounded prime minister. The Brexit fanatics have always been a minority of a minority and now no one can be in any doubt about that. And this same gang claim they could negotiate a superior agreement with the EU or handle a no-deal Brexit in 100 days that are left? Oh, please. Yet there was no humility in defeat from the ultras. It was with a poisonous lack of grace that they continued to demand Mrs May’s resignation even after she had prevailed in the confidence vote that they forced upon their party. You are entitled to belly laugh the next time that anyone tries to commend Jacob Rees-Mogg as a courteous gentleman. The mask of phoney civility slipped when this serpent in a double-breasted suit continued to hiss for Mrs May’s head after his coup had failed.

cynic - 16 Dec 2018 15:15 - 10902 of 12628

worth reading the whole of today's guardian headline article ..... below is a small snip, but much more of even more interest therein


The latest Opinium poll for the Observer, taken after May survived a confidence vote on Wednesday among her own MPs, despite 117 Tory MPs failing to back her, shows Labour’s lead over the Conservatives has dropped from three points a month ago to just one point, despite the crisis engulfing the government.

Labour is unchanged on 39%, while the Tories are up two points to 38%. The Liberal Democrats have gained one point to stand on 8%, while Ukip has dropped by two points to 6%.

While approval for the prime minister over her handling of Brexit is low, it is virtually unchanged since a month ago, while Corbyn’s approval rating on Brexit has dropped and is below that of May’s. The survey found 53% of UK adults disapprove of May’s handling of Brexit against 28% who approve. But only 16% of UK adults approve of Corbyn’s handling of Brexit, against 55% who disapprove. Last month 19% approved and 50% disapproved.
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