for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

So am I.

Back to seo now please.

someuwin

Me too.

However I don't want either of them to stop posting. Both have differing skills, knowledge and approaches which I find most useful. Keep it up.

I just want what could appear to be personal sniping (intended or not) to stop.

Thanks all :-)

i don't think oblomov's question was baiting and it certainly wasn't annoying. it was a fair question. if pm1 doesn't want such questions asked , then maybe he should stop insinuating he is privy to inside information. this wasn't his first time. surely that would put a halt to the "baiting".

back to seo. it hasn't been the best of weeks and for those searching for the bottom, in order to buy back in, next week could see more of the same......unless we finally get a good news greenseal rns. it makes little sense to me to switch the focus onto starpol unless greenseal is shown to be a success and proves seo are a company that can deliver. as promising as the last few announcements have been, there are still no pounds showing.

Paul,

I was never asked by the admin at FYB to stop anything - you were and thats why they banned you.

I've made my point now about the false claims of some your recent posts so its time to drop the subject.

I will finally say to those who do not like it when I challenge Paul that he has been banned from 3 BB's for making false claims - you should be thankful people like me are willing to highlight his downside. Thats what a forum is all about.

Tony/Someuwn,

I dont think this is a 'petty' matter. Many of Pauls posts are useful, many are downright misleading and when challenged he never backs down. I'm sure you know the story of what happened on FYB. You two may be keyed up enough to know when he's talking rubbish - there are other's who aren't and may be investing their hard earned cash on the basis of what they read here.

oblomov
Well done, in trying to convince some punters of there ways, but you know pm1 has his fan club, followers, to them he is there god, if they saw him shoot some one they would swear blind it wasn't him. Pm1 does do some good research and is very enthusiastic keep it up pm. But you must take all posters with a pinch of salt and do your own research. Take a look at my research page only facts nothing else.

Research Page..

http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread

Oblomov is a serial stirrer and stalker, he is lying when he says PM was banned from FYB, he left volantarily, before he got banned

who cares.

Bosley Hi,

You say "as the last few announcements have been, there are still no pounds showing." ....

EVO say 20 machines will be in place by end of October, that is 600,000 gross profit, I call that a lot of 'pounds'

Cheers,
PM

pm1 , i hope they are right, but until it is in the bank, it is still no pounds.

Mr Positively Mad Hi,

Almost the right way to put it, the way it went was that I was suspended pending a dispute being resolved, I was not banned, and I decided that I had seen enough of Oblomov and a couple of others stirring, and insulting me while I was suspended and unable to respond, so I decided it was time to build my own shares website with it's own discussion forums, and therefore I told FYB not to reinstate me.

I still have all the e-mails between myself and FYB, if anyone is really that bothered that yhey want proof.

My new website will appear sometime, I am rather busy at the moment, and will be for the next few months, as the company I work for has just been bought out. Meanwhile I will continue posting here.

Cheers,
PM

Bosley Hi,

How do you know it's not already in the bank ?

Stanelco sure aren't going to issue an RNS just to tell us that ....

Cheers,
PM

PM
that Oblomov is a scoundrel, he will run with the hare and the hounds to get attention.
Totally clueless about investing, as most of them on FYB are, they had to have a very basic course on investment terminology someone reported on iii.So no wonder
they protect each others ignorance by getting contrarian posters banned.
I am short SEO at the present, but I always listen to the opposite side.

pm1, do you know that it's in the bank?

Paul,

Thats an interesting take on what happened - another take would be that you jumped before you were pushed because you wouldn't remove the posts as requested by the FYB admin.

I do feel people should know exactly where you are coming from and in which context to view your posts so I hope you donr mind if in the interests of accuracy I reprint below the two posts on the SEO thread from the FYB administrators which accompanied your departure.

I suggest we drop the subject now.

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Guys and Gals
PM has NOT been banned but rather suspended. Due to inappropriate remarks he made on the COO thread, he was asked by Wendy to edit them out as we felt they could seriously mislead others reading that thread. PM refused to edit those remarks and we were therefore left with no choice but to remove the whole thread from Public view and suspend the poster.
We presently await PM to contact either Wendy or myself by email to express his side of the matter and provided we are satisfied with any assurances he may wish to give, we will reconsider his status with Fillyaboots and possibly reinstate the thread with the offending remarks deleted.
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I would like to pass on to all thread users the following quote from an email I have just received from Paul Masterson:

"FYI I am now going to build a new website, it will contain research on long term growth stocks, in the same way my Stanelco Research website does, it will not contain any suggestion of future price predictions, but will, like lemminginvestor, select various stocks with huge potential, it will also contain discussion forums, which I will administer.

For 48 a year I get what I want, a place to put all my research, a discussion forum where I can ban the abusers permanantly, and my own domain name, I call that a bargain.

I guess that means we will be in competition, so forget the reinstatement, conflicts of interest and all that."

I think that makes the situation very clear. PM1 has voluntarily relinquished his membership of this site. Needless to say, Fillyaboots will of course accede to his request not to be reinstated as a member.

Edited by removal as posted the same post twicw in error!!

Oblo why don`t you stop all yours instigations? You must accept that if you upset PM1 you upset a lot of people on this board

Anto - thats no good reason to stop. He implied he had special inside knowledge, I queried that, his response is here for you to read and we now have a clearer understanding on how much credence to give some of his wilder statements.

If that upsets Paul or Paul's fans so be it. The board isn't here to please Paul.

I think this has run its natural course now, so no more posts from me on the subject.

Bosley Hi,

RE "pm1, do you know that it's in the bank?"

How could I, but your suggesting it isn't, "but until it is in the bank, it is still no pounds."

The way I see it, is that Stanelco have said rollout is as per expectations, EVO expectations are 20 machines by the end of October, the only place they would get a figure like that is from Stanelco, and you are implying that will not be the case, by suggesting there are 'no pounds' in the bank, and that you won't be counting them until Stanelco tell you they are there, whereas I trust Stanelco and EVO to tell it like it is, rather than how they want it to appear.

Cheers,
PM

Apologies guys. I seem to have got the wrong thread. Can anyone direct me to the SEO thread. Thanks.
Alan

driver: you queried my trading in SEO, bearing in mind a purchase of 100k shares at 21p. Nearly all my trading in SEO has been by CFDs. With a gearing of 5:1 this obviously means that movements are exaggerated in one's total position. The prudent would keep a margin but a fall of 1p means 1000 quid down on that holding. Lucky not to have lost more than I did, but my approach has been to reduce exposure as the sp falls. Thus I finally sold out around 17p. Not in a position to reinvest at the moment (impact of losses plus capital needed) but I'm still actively interested in the share pending the availability of funds.

The key question that is not really being discussed is the balance of arguments re buying and selling at present. Are the traders going short or long? The opinion I have expressed is that it is difficult to call at the moment. The reason is the transfer in market perception from a company driven by the compelling prospects of Greenseal to a more broadly based set of products. bos: this is why I wouldn't look for that much from the next figures. We will have had the first quarter of the ASDA deal: 20 in Q1 would be consistent with four quarters of 20, 40, 60, 80. I wouldn't be that concerned if the first quarter was 10 not 20. Its clear that Greenseal is going much slower than Evolution and KBC Peel Hunt predicted; I suspect partly for engineering reasons related to retrofitting used equipment.

Fortunately, it appears that Starpol is taking up the running from the last RNS. Peel Hunt have recently increased their forecast for 2005/6 to a pbt(etc) of 7.43m pounds or a pe of around 20 which is not that demanding. There is still a deal of uncertainty that is likely to hold the sp back. Lets say there are positve RNSs forthcoming over Starpol, then we need to know from the Evo and PH what these mean in terms of cap. value. Lets say that they mean 50K pounds based on Starpol alone or 5p per share. If the ASDA deal is still projecting 200 machines, the equivalent value (remembering the on-going impact of royalties) is 10p using PH figures. Lo and behold a reasonable sp of 15p. What might cause the bulls to come back in in force? US deal for Greenseal of course; better Starpol projections or some really meaningful contribution from Frogpack.

As a direct investor in shares, I would certainly still be holding a decent quantity (as andysmith) but, out as I am and if I had the funds, I would use ii (yes he has contributed something useful) channel graph to determine timing of re-entry or react quickly to positive news, significant in the terms I have written above. Pretty certain I would avoid CFDs either way.

Suggest it would be more profitable to debate this contribution than extend the bickering about what PM might or might not have said, meant or inferred.

Eric