for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

pm1, do you know that it's in the bank?

Paul,

Thats an interesting take on what happened - another take would be that you jumped before you were pushed because you wouldn't remove the posts as requested by the FYB admin.

I do feel people should know exactly where you are coming from and in which context to view your posts so I hope you donr mind if in the interests of accuracy I reprint below the two posts on the SEO thread from the FYB administrators which accompanied your departure.

I suggest we drop the subject now.

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Posted: 12-Aug-05 at 18:34 | IP Logged


Guys and Gals
PM has NOT been banned but rather suspended. Due to inappropriate remarks he made on the COO thread, he was asked by Wendy to edit them out as we felt they could seriously mislead others reading that thread. PM refused to edit those remarks and we were therefore left with no choice but to remove the whole thread from Public view and suspend the poster.
We presently await PM to contact either Wendy or myself by email to express his side of the matter and provided we are satisfied with any assurances he may wish to give, we will reconsider his status with Fillyaboots and possibly reinstate the thread with the offending remarks deleted.
All members have a duty of care when posting in public and reference to the latest FSA rules (see link at the top of each Forum) will explain their legal responsibilities not to mislead others whether inadvertent or otherwise.
Thank you for your cooperation

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Wendy D
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Posted: 16-Aug-05 at 20:52 | IP Logged


I would like to pass on to all thread users the following quote from an email I have just received from Paul Masterson:

"FYI I am now going to build a new website, it will contain research on long term growth stocks, in the same way my Stanelco Research website does, it will not contain any suggestion of future price predictions, but will, like lemminginvestor, select various stocks with huge potential, it will also contain discussion forums, which I will administer.

For 48 a year I get what I want, a place to put all my research, a discussion forum where I can ban the abusers permanantly, and my own domain name, I call that a bargain.

I guess that means we will be in competition, so forget the reinstatement, conflicts of interest and all that."

I think that makes the situation very clear. PM1 has voluntarily relinquished his membership of this site. Needless to say, Fillyaboots will of course accede to his request not to be reinstated as a member.

Edited by removal as posted the same post twicw in error!!

Oblo why don`t you stop all yours instigations? You must accept that if you upset PM1 you upset a lot of people on this board

Anto - thats no good reason to stop. He implied he had special inside knowledge, I queried that, his response is here for you to read and we now have a clearer understanding on how much credence to give some of his wilder statements.

If that upsets Paul or Paul's fans so be it. The board isn't here to please Paul.

I think this has run its natural course now, so no more posts from me on the subject.

Bosley Hi,

RE "pm1, do you know that it's in the bank?"

How could I, but your suggesting it isn't, "but until it is in the bank, it is still no pounds."

The way I see it, is that Stanelco have said rollout is as per expectations, EVO expectations are 20 machines by the end of October, the only place they would get a figure like that is from Stanelco, and you are implying that will not be the case, by suggesting there are 'no pounds' in the bank, and that you won't be counting them until Stanelco tell you they are there, whereas I trust Stanelco and EVO to tell it like it is, rather than how they want it to appear.

Cheers,
PM

Apologies guys. I seem to have got the wrong thread. Can anyone direct me to the SEO thread. Thanks.
Alan

driver: you queried my trading in SEO, bearing in mind a purchase of 100k shares at 21p. Nearly all my trading in SEO has been by CFDs. With a gearing of 5:1 this obviously means that movements are exaggerated in one's total position. The prudent would keep a margin but a fall of 1p means 1000 quid down on that holding. Lucky not to have lost more than I did, but my approach has been to reduce exposure as the sp falls. Thus I finally sold out around 17p. Not in a position to reinvest at the moment (impact of losses plus capital needed) but I'm still actively interested in the share pending the availability of funds.

The key question that is not really being discussed is the balance of arguments re buying and selling at present. Are the traders going short or long? The opinion I have expressed is that it is difficult to call at the moment. The reason is the transfer in market perception from a company driven by the compelling prospects of Greenseal to a more broadly based set of products. bos: this is why I wouldn't look for that much from the next figures. We will have had the first quarter of the ASDA deal: 20 in Q1 would be consistent with four quarters of 20, 40, 60, 80. I wouldn't be that concerned if the first quarter was 10 not 20. Its clear that Greenseal is going much slower than Evolution and KBC Peel Hunt predicted; I suspect partly for engineering reasons related to retrofitting used equipment.

Fortunately, it appears that Starpol is taking up the running from the last RNS. Peel Hunt have recently increased their forecast for 2005/6 to a pbt(etc) of 7.43m pounds or a pe of around 20 which is not that demanding. There is still a deal of uncertainty that is likely to hold the sp back. Lets say there are positve RNSs forthcoming over Starpol, then we need to know from the Evo and PH what these mean in terms of cap. value. Lets say that they mean 50K pounds based on Starpol alone or 5p per share. If the ASDA deal is still projecting 200 machines, the equivalent value (remembering the on-going impact of royalties) is 10p using PH figures. Lo and behold a reasonable sp of 15p. What might cause the bulls to come back in in force? US deal for Greenseal of course; better Starpol projections or some really meaningful contribution from Frogpack.

As a direct investor in shares, I would certainly still be holding a decent quantity (as andysmith) but, out as I am and if I had the funds, I would use ii (yes he has contributed something useful) channel graph to determine timing of re-entry or react quickly to positive news, significant in the terms I have written above. Pretty certain I would avoid CFDs either way.

Suggest it would be more profitable to debate this contribution than extend the bickering about what PM might or might not have said, meant or inferred.

Eric

Oh for christ sake - you are all behaving like little children - for heavens sake grow up. I am going elsewhere until you lot start behaving like grown investors and can discuss matters properly. With apologies to eric who has probably made the most sensible posting for about 500 posts.

Bye for now

Baza

eric
Apologies eric thank you for correcting me I thought that you were implying that you have made of loads of money, clad to here that you have lost some like the rest of us, still respecting your posts.

To some of the newbies who have come from FYB can you cut out the crap we dont care if you love pm1 or not keep that stuff to your self the quality of erics post is what we were use to before you all came flooding in here.

Sorry if my changing the subject to SEO and Greenseal offends anyone !

I was passing ASDA Watford tonight and decided to go on a Greenseal (GS) hunt. As I reported here after my last visit 2 weeks or so ago, the full "Smart Price" range of budget/value ready meals was still using it.

Additionally there is now a new "Great Stuff" range of ready meals seemingly promoted at the kids nutritional meals market. Some of these were GS - but not all. I looked for a dividing factor and the only common denominator was that all the GS meals were "unsitable for microwave" and should be oven cooked. Non GS meals could be microwaved. I do not know if this was to do with the ingredients or not. I do recall reading once microwavability being possible with GS so hope this was not a discovery of any consequence, to be seized upon by the bashers.

Incidently these were the only products I could find - no layered salads which were the subject of the second (?) trial not any fresh packed fish products. Mind you I do find Watford a rather unsophisticated place !!

Yes, let's get some peace. Squelch the buggers. (Or, don't you know how; since you keep responding to them?)

Tony, what were the meals? Well, I cannot think of any meal that can only be cooked/re-heated in a microwave apart from fried eggs and many other meals that might "explode" or coagulate too fast.

zscrooge, are you suggesting that I talked up SEO when I didn't have any shares?TWAT if you are, you don't know fuck all about me, I am a private investor who has to earn a salary and is trying to make extra dosh on these markets, not rich or clever enough to risk CFD's etc so why the fuck would I have an interest talking up or down a share if I don't own the bastards you clown.
I have people on these boards who KNOW FOR A FACT that I owned SEO shares.
I also advised SEO to friends and family who have all made good money and I told them when I sold mine, their choice after that but most sold and are glad they took their profits but like me wish they'd not got greedy and took them at 28p.


Held SEO shares since April 2004 and held through worrying times including the 35% drop Autumn last year on BPRG cc announcement day.
Topped up many times and yes even in the 20p+ days of the Spring I anticipated further climbs as the Asda deal made progress and a US deal was announced which is why I didn't sell any, waiting for that next RNS that would take it even higher.
Pity that RNS has never come, many have but not that one.
An investor is allowed to take stock and when I believed not all going to plan and the same market that had carried the SEO sp >400% up this year was growing impatient at lack of progress and was turning against SEO despite the endless stream of positive RNS's I banked good profit.
I let folk on this thread that I have known for over a year know my actions for the very reason you are having a pop, if I continued to talk this thing up having sold it would be wrong. I made my own mind up that the time was right to bank profit and I have for once made the right decision, pity I didn't do it at 28p but I believed at the time this would go higher so you see although I made good profit I also lost out on some as well.
I still believe that SEO will come good but it no longer trades on hype and potential, it is trading back on fundamentals which means lower sp than 20p as the forecasts for 2006 are reduced.
Folk can now either buy this bargain sp on the potential or wait and see how far the market lets it fall.

Anyway, this board is out of control. Can't be bothered, those who know me have my e-mail details to talk outside of this pathetic thread.

andy
Nice one andy may be its time for a new thread for the oldies. Try and pick up some mdy first thing Mon morning and don't tell any one I told you.

Driver

'To some of the newbies who have come from FYB can you cut out the crap' ,

If (as I'm sure it is) this is directed at me, it is highly insulting. This has nothing to do with 'loving' or 'hating' pm, but more to do with challenging an individual who is contravening the current FSA rules and who has been banned from other BB's for doing the same,

I've kept quite on this thread over a long period and have only recently started to post in an endeavour to cut 'the crap' I've seen being posted here by a certain individual whose posts on other BB's led to suspensions/bans.

I've read Eric's posts for several months and even mentioned and recommended them several weeks ago as being informative. They are the most relevant and intelligent posts I've seen on any BB relating to SEO.

The contrast between his posts and the wild claims of another individual are vast.

I find it incredible that given the high quality of the majority of the posts on the thread, more people do not come forward and challenge the hype Perpetuated by PM1. Time and time again on other BB's I've seen this type of argument arise when PM is challenged - not just from posters but from the admin staff of the bb's.

It isn't 'crap' to challenge liars, Driver, its 'crap' not to.



Eric,

'Suggest it would be more profitable to debate this contribution than extend the bickering about what PM might or might not have said, meant or inferred.'

I have great respect for you, but this is a public forum and less able people than you (investment wise) have access to it. One of PM's wildest claims is a share price of 50 for SEO. I am not the sort of person who can stand by and watch this kind of manipulation without attempting to warn people.

I'm sorry if you see this as bickering - the administrators of FYB didn't which is why PM doesn't now have a platfrom there.

oblomov
Sorry to disappoint but it was not directed at you that is why I used the word some, but directed at the pm lovers who come out in support with out foundation.
Like I said earlier take posters with a pinch of salt, my mention of mdy for instance, dont take my word do your own research.

We did tackle pm when he arrived here and he did tone it down, he has been OK since imo, his fan club have the problem.

Ok Driver, you dont disappoint (I dont crave criticism!) - just didn't see any other FYB 'newbies' who your comment could have been directed at.

See where you were coming from now - thanks.

edited because posted twice due to poor internet connection!!!!!