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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Cerise Noire Girl - 17 Dec 2018 20:04 - 10935 of 12628

‘Brexit is over!’ - Brexiteer concludes it ‘will not happen at all’

He said: “If Brexit happens at all – and for the first time I’m beginning to think it won’t – it will be on terms that keep the worst aspects of EU membership.

“Britain will be humbled in the eyes of the world, having tried to recover its independence and been faced down.

“The largest popular vote in our history will be disregarded, and the nation that exported representative government exposed as an oligarchy.”

“If Parliament won’t accept Mrs May’s terms and won’t accept no deal then, one way or another, it keeps us in the EU. When you have eliminated the impossible, Watson, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

Speaking seperately Hannan told talkRADIO the only option now on the table would be a second referendum which would be “rigged in the most obvious sense.”

“The choice presented to people on the ballot paper will not be between Leave and Remain but will be between Theresa May’s deal - which most Eurosceptics including me regard as the worst possible outcome - or remaining on the terms we were two years ago.”

He said that Brexiteers should not be preparing for a second referendum but instead to prepare for a “mass boycott” of a People’s Vote.

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2018 20:45 - 10936 of 12628

Perhaps, Hannan and worshippers could leave the country.

Martini - 17 Dec 2018 21:35 - 10937 of 12628

Labour what a shambles. Go back to growing broad beans on your allotment JC and stop trying to play big boy games.

Dil - 17 Dec 2018 22:35 - 10938 of 12628

Perhaps you and the rest of the moaners should Fred as there are only a few thousand of you and you wouldn't be missed.

MaxK - 17 Dec 2018 23:55 - 10939 of 12628

200k +


https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963

MaxK - 18 Dec 2018 08:03 - 10940 of 12628

cynic - 18 Dec 2018 08:36 - 10941 of 12628

i find it curious or even pathetic that corbyn lacks the balls to go for a NCV aginst the gov't but picks the relatively minor target of TM - which i strongly suspect he will lose anyway

no wonder his ratings are even below those for TM and that labour can barely scrape any lead at all in polls, inaccurate as they have proved to be in the past

Stan - 18 Dec 2018 09:14 - 10942 of 12628

Ah there you are Alf we were having a conversation yesterday and you seemed to buzz of half way through so what about answering Post 10920 now?

iturama - 18 Dec 2018 09:38 - 10943 of 12628

Ever thought of buzzing off yourself and stop asking daft questions? They are not worth answering because you don't want to be educated but wish to continue bickering. If you don't like the result, go out on the streets of Burnley and argue your case. Since 2 out of 3 of your neighbours voted out, you'll find plenty that disagree with you. You can argue to your heart's content.

Clocktower - 18 Dec 2018 09:56 - 10944 of 12628

I expect those that hate the idea of a clean break from the EU are rather down in the dumps today as the Cabinet are now considering the no-deal Bexit Plan.

What with Matt Hancock saying ""We’ve instituted full no deal planning within the NHS already, and I would like to see the whole of government going to that position because it’s the responsible thing to do."

Well done for getting on with what should have been done in 2016 - better late than never.

Stan - 18 Dec 2018 10:06 - 10945 of 12628

Well Alf.

cynic - 18 Dec 2018 10:09 - 10946 of 12628

yes thank you :-)

Fred1new - 18 Dec 2018 10:14 - 10947 of 12628

The tory party cabinet reminds me of Hitler's bunker in the last days of the WW2.

I wonder if a Nebula will jump out of a window or be thrown out by her reliable cohorts.

Why should JC put the knife in when the "darlings" are poisoning themselves?

What a stupid self-inflicted damage has been done to the UK.

Mind the majority of the cons are looking and sounding like the football yobs of a few years ago.

Stan - 18 Dec 2018 10:17 - 10948 of 12628

Ha ha gotcha...so that's as good as you admitting I'm right on all three responses to your post and you agreeing with me that the outsiders are slowly loosing it.. as demonstrated by their increasingly personal responses on here...thank you.

cynic - 18 Dec 2018 10:25 - 10949 of 12628

whatever you choose to imagine

Dil - 18 Dec 2018 11:12 - 10950 of 12628

I reckon May could possibly get the numbers to scrape a no deal through Parliament if all the Tories concede there is no chance of the EUs plan being accepted.

There are enough Labour leavers to counter Ken Clarke and his sort.

Watch how fast the EU start back tracking when this starts gaining momentum.

Stan - 18 Dec 2018 11:18 - 10951 of 12628

Dil still in a Brexit dream world.

Talking of Hush Puppie man he seems to be one of the very few Tories talking sense these days on Europe.

iturama - 18 Dec 2018 11:20 - 10952 of 12628

Someone has to pay their inflated salaries. Now who agreed to that latest round of pay increases or do they just self award? You wonder if they look out of their ivory towers of Babel and notice what is happening on the streets.

Fred1new - 18 Dec 2018 11:31 - 10953 of 12628

Your Babbel sounds like the present tory or neo-con party:

"According to the story, a united humanity in the generations following the Great Flood, speaking a single language and migrating eastward, comes to the land of Shinar (שִׁנְעָר‬). There they agree to build a city and a tower tall enough to reach heaven. God, observing their city and tower, confounds their speech so that they can no longer understand each other, and scatters them around the world."

-=-=-=-=-=

How many of the present tory "grandees" are squirrelling their already ill-gotten cash abroad at the moment and already shorting the UK?

Fred1new - 18 Dec 2018 11:52 - 10954 of 12628

Max,

Post 10940

Do you think Cameron is plotting a comeback?


8-)
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