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Pilks is not looking good (PILK)     

ainsoph - 10 Mar 2003 11:38

Just tracking with a view to bottom fishing at the right time


CSFB downgraded glassmaker Pilkington to 'underperform' from 'neutral', dropping its price target to 45p from 68p. 'Pilkington's near term prospects have deteriorated markedly over the last several months and the trading update at the end of this month is likely to be a profit warning,' it said.


ains


Currently 45.75/46p

Sombrero - 14 Mar 2003 09:29 - 11 of 21

ainsoph - 14 Mar 2003 09:35 - 12 of 21

Pilks are up over 25% from their lows earlier this week :-))

ainsoph - 27 Mar 2003 07:41 - 13 of 21

LONDON (AFX) - Pilkington PLC said conditions remain challenging in most of its major markets, however trading is in line with expectations thanks to the improved competitiveness of its manufacturing base.
Stuart Chambers, group chief executive, said: "Trading has been in line with expectations and our headline profitability is set to see a continuation of the consistent level reported in each of the last two financial half-years.

"In addition our renewed emphasis on free cash flow generation will enable us to report our strongest cash performance since 1994," he said.

newsdesk@afxnews.com

Hectorp - 27 Mar 2003 15:13 - 14 of 21

Stock appears fairly well priced at 52p... I'd not buy now, and I'd not sell now !

ainsoph - 27 Mar 2003 15:15 - 15 of 21

agreed .... as it happens I am out but looking to return .... not today though

ainsoph - 28 Mar 2003 08:09 - 16 of 21

From the Indy

Pilkington's prospects remain too opaque

Is there going to be a dividend cut at Pilkington, the renowned glass maker?

This was the question we last asked in September, when the stock had a prospective yield of 8 per cent that signalled the market clearly thought it would have to slash the payout. It was not an unreasonable assumption from investors, who noted, ruefully, Pilkington's appalling record in generating cash and the dire trading conditions in the glass market.

But Stuart Chambers, the chief executive, promised to move heaven and earth to maintain the payout and, as time goes on, confidence is growing that he can succeed. A trading update yesterday surprised the sceptics, showing that Mr Chambers has been able to wring more cash than expected out of Pilkington's businesses and make inroads into the group's 900m debt mountain. Years of painful restructuring are starting to pay off but that size of debt will continue to limit its room for manoeuvre for years to come. There are also worries that the group may have to top up pension funds in the US and Germany.

Mr Chambers is not getting any help from the global economy either. Commercial construction activity is still sluggish in the US and Continental Europe, and that means less demand for glass. Only the UK, where regulation is forcing customers to use Pilkington's energy efficient glass, has so far remained buoyant.

There was better news in automotive glass, with Pilkington being designed into some new models and a robust market for replacement windscreens. But car manufacturing could come under pressure if consumer confidence falters.

So it is too early to feel confident about Pilkington's recovery, though the shares rose 6 per cent to 52.75p yesterday. Even at best, profits will be flat in the coming year. Investors need not rush while the economic future is seen only through a glass darkly.

washlander - 06 Nov 2003 10:31 - 17 of 21

Any further thoughts on this company. I am considering including it my portfolio. The news in the last two months do not appear bad and the figures yesterday were realistic to say the least yet the price has fallen at the time of writting by one point. I appreciate the uncertainty of a rate rise in the market, however I think this has been over done. Have I missed something. Many thanks in advance.

JRM - 06 Nov 2003 11:14 - 18 of 21

These are yummy a quality brand and the divi can be reinvested!

washlander - 06 Nov 2003 11:30 - 19 of 21

Okay I have put my money wher my mouth is and invested 12 thou.
I peg you for right.

washlander - 07 Nov 2003 08:48 - 20 of 21

Although Pilk has gone up this morning, there has been some searious sales. Does anybody have any clues to why or is this just the normal way of things? I personally am happy with this company and I feel if their market picks up this shares will move further upwards. If I am wrong please feel free to enlighten me :-)

josefresko - 27 Jan 2004 09:34 - 21 of 21

I have just read this BB for the first time. Fascinating stuff. So on 10 March, DrKW lowered price target to 41p. CSFB lowered target to 45p. Both brokers forecast poor trading conditions and a dividend cut. Rocamar wrote here "this will fall to 35p in the next few weeks according to the charts". The previous trading day Pilkington had closed at around 49p.

In fact the 52 week low for Pilkington occurred the following day, at 43.3p. The trading update at the end of March was positive, news flow has continued to improve and today Pilkington is at 99p, with a maintained dividend.

Its nice that this confirms my suspicion that broker forecasts are as wrong as much as they are right, and charts may as well be drawn upside-down for the good they do.
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