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Traders Thread - Thursday 19th February (RBOS)     

Crocodile - 18 Feb 2004 23:19

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Diageo spirits group returned to profit with a 2% profit rise to 1.297 billion pounds and said it expected current trends to continue, despite an uneven recovery in Europe and north American markets was clouded by higher pension costs and a weak U.S. dollar.

Royal Bank of Scotland reported annual profit up 29 percent to 6.16 billion pounds from 4.76 billion a year earlier above expectations, on strong revenue growth.

WS Atkins expects its profits for the year to end-March 2004 to be "somewhat ahead" of the market consensus. "The outlook in all Atkins principal markets remains good," the company said in a trading statement

Hanson building materials posted profits of 319.7 million pounds down from 350.3 million pounds but ahead of analysts expectations of 311.9 million. This was after bad weather delayed projects in the United States where it earns about half of its revenues pounds Reed-Elsevier publisher profit rose 9% to 1.01 billion pounds from 927 million with analyst expectations of 976.5 million to1.03 billion pounds and said growth would be in the mid-to-high single digit percentage range this year.

Morgan Crucible engineer said it was raising 54 million pounds in a rights issue and would use the money to fund its recently announced "profit improvement programme".

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Fundamentalist - 19 Feb 2004 10:26 - 11 of 13

LW - when looking at profit to use for EPS/PE ratio basis, do you include or exclude exceptional items? Just I have had a difference of opinion with someone on this and would appreciate your views or anyone else

thanks

stockbunny - 19 Feb 2004 11:51 - 12 of 13

Curious isn't it?
MLC offer up some rotten results and cut the divi, which was
widely expected to do the lead balloon routine to the share price
if they did and lo and behold the price is rising not dropping....
Such are the strange eccentric motions of share trading!!!!

little woman - 19 Feb 2004 17:42 - 13 of 13

Fundamentalist - I ignore exceptional items as they are supposed to be one offs.

Although I will look at what they are and why they have occurred. They can be pointers to caution/careful management team, or a reckless one!
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