Bullshare
- 17 Jan 2006 11:21
Now Plus Markets have launched their service I thought I would compare their prices against those on the London Stock Exchange.
Cant see any compelling reasons (price or volume) for any broker to use Plus markets yet! It'll be interesting to see how it all unfolds.
This snapshot was taken at 10.30am today from Plus Markets Top Gainers.
Retail Decisions |
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Plus markets |
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Bid |
153 |
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Offer |
158 |
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Volume |
170057 |
London Stock Exchange |
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Bid |
154.5 |
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Offer |
155 |
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Volume |
1406484 |
Armorgroup
Plus markets
Bid
88
Offer
90.75
Volume
63565
London Stock Exchange
Bid
87.5
Offer
90.75
Volume
191277
Eurotunnel
Plus markets
Bid
23
Offer
25.5
Volume
41010
London Stock Exchange
Bid
24
Offer
24.75
Volume
287056
Wyevale
Plus markets
Bid
500
Offer
525
Volume
2875
London Stock Exchange
Bid
507.5
Offer
519.5
Volume
1406484
Helical Bar
Plus markets
Bid
310
Offer
320
Volume
0
London Stock Exchange
Bid
313
Offer
320
Volume
197885
Vernalis
Plus markets
Bid
74
Offer
77
Volume
11746
London Stock Exchange
Bid
75
Offer
75.5
Volume
66488
NSB Retail
Plus markets
Bid
29.5
Offer
31
Volume
71213
London Stock Exchange
Bid
29.75
Offer
30.5
Volume
184500
Moss bros
Plus markets
Bid
80
Offer
84
Volume
0
London Stock Exchange
Bid
81.5
Offer
83
Volume
10000
Jarvis
Plus markets
Bid
89
Offer
91
Volume
14745
London Stock Exchange
Bid
89
Offer
90
Volume
50000
Vitec
Plus markets
Bid
380
Offer
400
Volume
0
London Stock Exchange
Bid
384
Offer
395
Volume
8065
CC
- 29 Mar 2008 18:58
- 11 of 15
I think we have the same problem with the large cap stocks though due to trades going through Turquoise rather than the lse ?
I used to be able to make money just by implying predictive relationships of 'o' trades and 'at' trades on the big cap stocks. It's not been possible for the last 18 months as I simply don't see the 'o' trades being reported like they used to.
Stan
- 03 Apr 2008 17:25
- 12 of 15
I seem to be increasingly using limit orders these days and not only are some executed via Plus but have just had one "Executed Off Market". What does that mean please?
I suppose as far as volume is concerned as long as it is as low as 2% it's hardly likely to be very significant.
Thanks for flagging it up though chaps, worth checking their site from time to time for individual shares volumes.
CC
- 03 Apr 2008 22:56
- 13 of 15
Stan it probably means your broker was already working an order in the opposite direction to yours so he simply matched them without routing through an exchange
Kyoto
- 04 Apr 2008 01:20
- 14 of 15
CC - I don't think Turquoise are transacting yet, but existing trades are being routed through Plus, Virt-x, and Chi-X. I read that Chi-X accounts for 5% of the total trading volume transacted in the Eurozone and I got the impression some of London's business is going that way too. The US-based 'BATS' operation is planning to launch here as well - they are aggressive and likely to take business away from the existing operators by the sound of it.
It's all very well introducing competition to the exchanges, but it seems to me the result is rendering the LSE-based Level 2 and trade reporting obsolete. I can't understand why there isn't a regulatory need to have a unified platform, though I suppose a large attraction of Turquoise is the very fact that they aren't as transparent.
I guess traders can start to throw L2 in the bin within the next couple of years, unless something changes.
European Stock Exchanges: BATS Arrival on Foreign Shores Should Add Competitive Pressure on Equity Platforms
An FT article states that BATS will today announce plans to launch in Europe this autumn. Founded in 2006, the Kansas City, Missouri-based Better Alternative Trading System has quickly become the third-largest share trading market platform in U.S. equities. Last month, BATS handled about 1.1bn shares, or about 11.3% of all Nasdaq-listed stock volume and 8% of NYSE-listed shares.
1 BATS is an exchange operator with a proven ability to take on incumbent exchanges. We regard their decision to launch in Europe as confirmation of our thesis that LSE and Deutsche Boerses Xetra will suffer from stiff market competition and pressure to reduce trading fees.
2 BATS is very competitive on pricing. BATS gained significant market share in the U.S. on the back of an aggressive pricing policy (Exhibit 1).
In January 2007 they started offering heavy discounts on Nasdaq stocks to gain market share, even though this meant they were losing $5m in a month. BATS increased market share from 3% to double digits and managed to hold on to these gains after raising prices again.
1 When they started offering NYSE securities in February 2007 they managed to get 7% share in just 7 months once they introduced discounts in September 2007.
2 Randy Williams, vice-president for sales and communications, said: We are going to be just as aggressive in Europe as we have been in the US.
BATS is backed by brokers and high-frequency traders. BATS is backed by 11 investors, including Citibank, JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch and Getco, a proprietary trading firm that is one of the largest market-makers in US equities.
1 Of the most often cited competitors to the European players (Chi-X, Turquoise and BATS), so far only Chi-X is fully operational. Chi-X launched last year in the European market, and has gained significant levels of market share, capturing as much as 10% of FTSE 100 trading and 7% of DAX 30 trading on some days. Project Turquoise has been delayed by a lack of a dedicated management team and discussions about the technology platform. These issues appear to be solved and launch is now expected for the middle of 2008.
Stan
- 10 Nov 2008 10:37
- 15 of 15
On the question of volumes I notice today (so far) that there is twice the number of trades on Plus then there are on the main market for XUKS.
First time that I have noticed that there is any more then about 3-4% of volume in comparing the main and the Plus market (on a share that I am interested in), I wonder what it will be like at the close.