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How to profit from Betting Exchanges (BEX)     

Scripophilist - 27 Oct 2004 23:40


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Harlosh - 11 Feb 2005 16:21 - 1103 of 10502

Anyone else having problems with Betfair? Changes from Today's Card to the Course I happen to be trading on at the time, showing all the races for that course only. Worst of all it keeps switching the refresher off also.

Kayak - 11 Feb 2005 16:41 - 1104 of 10502

Well that was the record for a FTSE change in the auction. Nearly 40 points! If you disregard the value at 16.30 which was already at the destination.

Piptrader - 11 Feb 2005 16:43 - 1105 of 10502

All very odd, but Betfair have just settled at the low figure!

Scripophilist - 11 Feb 2005 16:43 - 1106 of 10502

Missed it what happened?

Scripophilist - 11 Feb 2005 16:45 - 1107 of 10502

Just checked my transaction log, What the hell happened there!!

Scripophilist - 11 Feb 2005 16:59 - 1108 of 10502

My log says:-

4:29:45 - 5004.50 +4.50
4:29:30 - 5044.10 +44.10

Something odd happened in those 15 seconds. Any large stock movers?

Kayak - 11 Feb 2005 17:03 - 1109 of 10502

I suppose if you have the time and inclination you could work out the value given the weightings on http://www.ftse.com and the prices...

Scripophilist - 11 Feb 2005 17:05 - 1110 of 10502

Rumours are there will be a re-adjustment.

Scripophilist - 11 Feb 2005 17:16 - 1111 of 10502

And there it is.

Fundamentalist - 11 Feb 2005 18:16 - 1112 of 10502

Blondie

the course is well worth going on - it will open your eyes to a new opportunity - it certainly did mine. Initially i dont think i would want to rely on it as a sole source of income - you will need time to develop what strategies work for you and possibly develop some additional ones.

stuartreece - 11 Feb 2005 18:49 - 1113 of 10502

Hi everybody

I'm new to all this but have booked for the course on the 23rd Feb. I'm getting myself a bit confused though. In post 1093 above bakko states

"I've just backed at 1.21 and layed off at 1.07"

Am I correct in thinking if plyer 1 wins there will be a profit of 14 (assuming 100 stake) and if plyer 1 looses there would be neither a profit nor a loss - or am I looking at it incorrectly?

Any help gratefully received.

stuartreece - 11 Feb 2005 18:50 - 1114 of 10502

Sorry can't even spell correctly now that should be "player" not the alternative spelling!

Harlosh - 11 Feb 2005 18:59 - 1115 of 10502

Stuartreece,

Welcome to the thread.

I'm not sure what you mean by player 1 but in the circumstances described by bakko he has basically won the difference between backing at 1.21 and laying at 1.07. 14 as you say assuming a 100 stake. By doing so he cannot lose though he may yet win nothing. Once he has 'greened up however, he would win, whatever the outcome of the match.

Hope that helps.

stuartreece - 11 Feb 2005 19:09 - 1116 of 10502

Thanks Halosh that does help.

Next problem - what exactly (or even roughly) does he do to "green up"

Harlosh - 11 Feb 2005 19:15 - 1117 of 10502

I woudn't want to steal Scrip's thunder by revealing all before the course Stuart. Suffice to say it's a simple process which basically distributes your potential profit (or loss) on one outcome across all possible outcomes. Very clever.

stuartreece - 11 Feb 2005 19:20 - 1118 of 10502

Much obliged.

I like the way you say "its a simple process" - I will reserve judgement until the 23rd.

bakko - 11 Feb 2005 22:44 - 1119 of 10502

stuartreece,

Welcome to the thread too.

Apologies for not being around to answer your post.

Harlosh is quite correct in explaining it. I'd already greened up meaning that I was on a win regardless of the final result. At that moment Fundy was kind enough to provide me with an update and based on the strength of that I decided to squeeze it more for a bigger profit.(Thanks once again, Fundy).

It definitely is a very simple process and all will be revealed on Scrip's course

bakko - 12 Feb 2005 10:38 - 1120 of 10502

Morning all,

For those of you on the golf AT+T Pebble Beach there's a good opportunity to lay off Mickleson at 1.48/1.51 now with a chance of backing or greening up later. The odds have drifted slightly even as I've been typing.

2 rounds have been completed with the poorer weather conditions forecasted for the weekend. Go to weather.com and enter Pebble Beach in relation to Golf for forecast.

Mickleson has scored well but can't see him replicating his record below par scores of initial rounds. For scoreboard go to www.pgatour.com/scoring/leaderboard/r

Please DYOR

cunningham - 13 Feb 2005 14:44 - 1121 of 10502

Green on the Manchester derby - now on to the rugby.

Fundamentalist - 13 Feb 2005 14:56 - 1122 of 10502

Well done cunningham

having a field day on the cricket this am - its gonna have to be another 2 tv afternoon - cricket on 1 rugby on the other
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