Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

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and a huge blessing with hindsight

In what way with hindsight?

It probably prevented the Unions embarrassment of having to expel him after he had joined.

Merry Christmas all and hope Brexit gets sorted for 2019.....(fingers crossed)….

3 months , 13 weeks or 91 days to go.

Take your pick , not long now.

Tic toc.

Peter Pan has posted!

The future after Dil,

Cheer up Fred , Cardiff won

Happy day 90 til we leave.

Where's Soros Hils , leaving it a bit late.

Well he's nearly as old as some of the gammon on this thread, Dilbert, so I doubt you'll see him turning up at rallies in person, if that's what you mean.

But, his money is helping fund the Best for Britain campaign, which, together with the People's Vote campaign through various media, is attempting to show the negative impact of Brexit on the economy and the British people. Personally, I think they're doing quite a good job in a moderately subtle way (Brexit is currently priced around evens as happening at all), and I suspect the calls for a People's Vote will reach fever pitch once Maggie Dismay tries to get her Withdrawal Bill through Parliament again in the new year.

You've been around long enough.... you know fully well that these things are all about timing and squeeky bums. Shoot their bolts too early, and they get labelled as sour-grapes Bremoaners and allow the Brextremists time to counter - the aim is to turn peoples' heads without them even realising that they've been turned.

Happy New Year for Dil.

To cheer Dil and Georgie boy up!

'Brexit 50-50' if May's deal rejected, says Liam Fox
5 hours ago

Senior Brexiteer minister Liam Fox says there is a 50-50 chance the UK will not leave the EU on 29 March if MPs reject Theresa May's Brexit deal next month.

Brexit Year Eve.

Happy days.

Perhaps the truth?

Hardly Fred. I wonder why those coming this way say that they would rather drown than stay in France. Land of tolerance this is, we even tolerate you. Happy New Year.

i confess i am also rather puzzled as to why migrants are still desperate to come to uk, when france and the rest of europe are no less "safe"

while some, though assuredly not all, are fleeing for their lives from their homelands - eg the kurds - why should uk feel obligated to accept all and sundry?
or put another way, why should not uk return them to france, where eu has far greater obligations to accommodate them in all respects?

Manuel,

I believe England accepted your antecedents.

in the 1930's, generally with considerable reluctance and strictures

as for my grandparents at the turn of 20th century, things were very different, not least that the jews supported their own and there was no state safety net or comfort blanket of any kind

and your next point is what, preferably with some validity unlike your last?