Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Labour members want Corbyn to back second Brexit referendum - poll

Jeremy Corbyn is facing further pressure to back a second Brexit referendum after polling showed support among Labour members for another vote.

The Labour leader has resisted calls from within his party to back a referendum, instead calling for a general election and promising to strike his own "jobs-first" Brexit deal with Brussels retaining all the benefits of staying in while leaving.

But a study of more than 1,000 Labour members found that 72% want Corbyn to throw his weight behind a so-called People's Vote.

Outside the membership, the study also found backing for a second vote among Labour supporters, with some 57% of current Labour voters and 61% of those who backed the party at the 2017 election want Corbyn to "fully support" a fresh referendum.

The work suggests that tens of thousands of Labour members could be prepared to quit the party over the leadership's approach to leaving the EU.

Almost a quarter (23%) of Labour members put Corbyn's refusal to back a second referendum down to a belief that he supports Brexit.

Professor Tim Bale, of Queen Mary University London, said: "Our survey of Labour's grassroots clearly shows that Corbyn's apparent willingness to see the UK leave the EU - a stance he has recently reiterated - is seriously at odds with what the overwhelming majority of Labour's members want, and it doesn't reflect the views of most Labour voters either."

The work was carried out by YouGov for the Economic and Social Research Council-funded Party Members Project.

Some 29% of Labour's rank-and-file members said they oppose the stance that the party has taken on Brexit - and 56% of those told researchers it has caused them to consider quitting.

That proportion would be equivalent to around 88,000 members, according to the project's analysis.

If there is another referendum - and a three-way question - some 88% of Labour members said they would back Remain, 3% said they would leave with Theresa May's deal and 5% would support leaving with no deal.

If the choice was between the prime minister's deal and leaving the EU without an agreement, some 27% of Labour members said they would boycott the vote altogether, although 46% said they would take May's deal.

Some 89% of Labour members - compared with 65% of current Labour voters and only 45% of all voters - are convinced that leaving the EU without a deal would cause economic damage in the medium to long-term.

While just 35% of the electorate as a whole believe that warnings of short-term disruption with potential problems for food and medicine supplies in a no-deal Brexit are realistic, that figure rises to 82% of Labour members and 58% of Labour voters.

Prof Bale said: "Our survey suggests Labour's membership is overwhelmingly in favour of the UK remaining in the EU and badly wants a referendum to achieve that end.

"It also suggests that Labour voters, while not as keen as the party's members on either count, are in the same camp.
"Labour's grassroots clearly hate Brexit and, although many of them still love Corbyn, he might not be able to rely for much longer on their support for him trumping their opposition to leaving the EU.

"As a result, our research is bound to increase the pressure on Labour's leader to get off the fence."

YouGov surveyed 1,034 Labour Party members between December 17 and 21 2018. The pollster also surveyed a representative sample of 1,675 British adults on December 18-19.

A survey of 1024 labour voters against a vote of over 17 million.

Well that's a sure fire thing then Hils.

One thing I do believe is that Corbyn wants to leave and more than Mrs May does.

Roll on that Informed referendum and then the UK can get back some sort of normality before the Tories get kicked out.

What will be the question Stan?

In or out knowing what is now known of course M.

O and what are the terms will we have with the EU if we leave?

God knows!

Ask him/her/it.

I see French and German manufacturing goods declined again.

To be Frank Fred I like to be informed on these major decisions

Then ask T May to give Parliament the full treaties, contracts, regulations of trade which the government says it has agreed to or will agree to and scrutinise them.

(Over 50 years worth of negotiations and promises.)

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O and what are the terms will we have with the EU if we leave?"

As you know your Government can't decide on them so people will vote accordingly of course.

Sorry Stan not true the Eu won’t discuss them till the withdrawal agreement is settled. Do try to keep up..

If anyone needs to keep up it's you M.

so yah boo sucks

When will the shipping company`s start taking bookings fror the New Ferry Services after Brexit - will they start soon after the MP`s Vote to leave with a clean break from the grips of the EU?

C/T...file under M, Alf etc.

This government can't even regulate a Train Service.

What hope do they have of organising trade agreements and legal regulations?

Forgot, they have given a boat contract to a company without any boats.

I would like to see the directors' contact books.

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Has what his name got a contract?

It will be so nice, not to receive a email from a different EU countries tax department each quarter reminding me not to be late in submitting and paying their VAT! I normally consign them to my SPAM box as its extremely condescending!

The good news is that any business with annual EU Sales under €10k no longer needs to charge or submit VAT returns to the Member State of the Consumer and can de-register from 1 Jan 2019. If the business is UK VAT registered they may charge UK VAT instead. Shame this had not happened before. There was nothing worse than a business who has to do VAT returns with Sales of under €10k, just because they are selling to EU Consumers.

I just need to find out what is going to happen to UK business who have more than €10k in EU Sales to "Consumers". Hopefully no more VAT charges to be paid to the each "Member states of the Consumers"!

That's obviously a sweetener so you vote to remain in the second referendum, little woman.

Strewth. At this rate, Dilbert's gonna be the only one left who still wants to leave.

:o)

not so, but everyone (the whole country even) is more than a little bored with the whole process let alone the continuous and repetitive nonsense that is posted by so many on this site