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PC & MAC CLINIC - On line problem solving. (CPU)     

Crocodile - 16 Dec 2002 03:59

Robb - 10 Dec 2003 08:03 - 1113 of 11003

Ian - Same result after rebooting - does this lot from the java console mean anything to you? Do I have to reload java or something? L2 seems ok.


load: class com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class not found.

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)
at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)
at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)
at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)
at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.io.IOException: open HTTP connection failed.
at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)
at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)
at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
... 10 more

IanT(MoneyAM) - 10 Dec 2003 08:04 - 1114 of 11003

Robb,

it maybe that you will need to re load the java plugi, I will mail you with details.

Ian

Robb - 10 Dec 2003 08:05 - 1115 of 11003

Ian - much appreciated.

Mr Euro - 10 Dec 2003 12:39 - 1116 of 11003

Kayak, Croc and other IT kings, help please!

My Samsung V20 is broken beyond repair (I lost my temper!). My insurance covers it etc.. and I have taken the hard drive out. Now for the tricky bit! If I buy a new lap top how can I get my old data (not just data but exactly the same applications and everything) on a new laptop? Possible options:

1. Give it to a PC shop to do?
2. Buy the same laptop again and just put in the old hard drive?
3. Give it to a couple of coyboys who I know who say its easy?
4. Buy a new dell or something and send them the hard disk and ask them to do it?

Any help please?!

Thanks.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 10 Dec 2003 13:05 - 1117 of 11003

Mr Euro,

Assuming you are talking laptops, it really is going to be easiest to give it to a PC repair shop to do.

unless you have another lappy that you can (easily) put another hard drive in to?

Messing with laptops is very different to messing with desktops (especailly vaios I have found)

just my 2p worth.

J.

Kayak - 10 Dec 2003 13:11 - 1118 of 11003

Mr E, the problem with laptops is that they normally have specific drivers etc., so you probably wouldn't be able just to load an image of the old disk. I would probably install all the applications again and use something like this (for 2" drives) to load your data/settings etc. on to it. You could also use a friend's laptop with a connecting cable, e.g. a parallel cable with appropriate software, or a network cable with a twist if you both have network sockets.

Mr Euro - 10 Dec 2003 13:20 - 1119 of 11003

Thanks guys, want to try and avoid reloading applciations as for strarters I can't remember half of them let along find all the registration keys and things. I have a call into Samsung to see if I can just buy the same laptop again and just swap hard drives - and then it will be as if nothing has changed?

DocProc - 10 Dec 2003 13:55 - 1120 of 11003

Mr Euro

Try the "Belarc Advisor".

The Belarc Advisor builds a detailed profile of your installed software and hardware, including Microsoft Hotfixes, and displays the results in your Web browser. All of your PC profile information is kept private on your PC and is not sent to any web server.

This is an excellent hardware and software auditing programme, which is also useful to use beforehand when you take your machine in for repair.

Obviously, you can also Copy and Paste the audit report into a Word document and either print it out or save it to file.

Mr Euro - 10 Dec 2003 14:16 - 1121 of 11003

Thanks Doc, the only problem is the only thing thats left of my old notebook is the hard drive which I extracted with a screwdriver and hammer.

Kayak - 10 Dec 2003 14:17 - 1122 of 11003

If it's the exact same model Mr E it should in theory work fine (although the newer disk might be a better spec). However even close models can have significant differences in the built-in devices.

Robb - 11 Dec 2003 10:21 - 1123 of 11003

Ian - Is there any progress with my java problem. Do you know if your tech chaps think the fix on the forum is the way forward - nothing I will hold them too but just an opinion from someone who has a clue on these things - unlike me! Or maybe delete 1.4.2 if I can and go back to 1.3.something. Obviously still without monitor :-(

Thanks
Rob

IanT(MoneyAM) - 11 Dec 2003 10:26 - 1124 of 11003

I will get them to contact you Robb,

Regards

Ian

Optimist - 11 Dec 2003 11:34 - 1125 of 11003

Mr E

If you have a standard PC with enough disk space mount your laptop disk on your PC and back up the entire hard drive. You need an adaptor that you can buy here:- http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/module.asp?CartID=031130125901511&moduleno=28724

Once you have backed up the disk, fit it in the new laptop, boot from the windows instalation CD and let Windows setup repair your existing instalation.
This wil get Windows working on your new machine with all your programs and most settings intact. You will still have to download the service packs and windows updates (which takes ages).

This method does not always work so a disk backup is essential before you start.

Mega Bucks - 16 Dec 2003 18:53 - 1126 of 11003

evening all,

Houston we have a problem:-)

built a new computer over the weekend when you start it up it boots as it should do and runs superb but after about 5-6 minutes it freezes and the only thing you can do is shut it down and start it up again and bingo same thing again:-(it is running win2k pro and has the biggest heat sink and fan going plus a extra case fan so it should run cool but it has all the symptons of over heating and locking up...

has any one any ideas please it would be welcome:-)

Rick...

Kayak - 16 Dec 2003 19:49 - 1127 of 11003

It could also be the graphics card overheating. If it is a heat problem then on restarting after freezing the interval will probably be shorter than on starting from cold. Otherwise I would guess a faulty memory stick. If you have more than one take them out one at a time to see if the problem goes away.

Also you can download MBM from here which will give you motherboard, CPU temps and fan speeds assuming your motherboard supports it. It will take some fiddling with though to configure it.

Optimist - 16 Dec 2003 20:32 - 1128 of 11003

I aggree with the above but do not discount the possibility of a faulty motherboard.

Mega Bucks - 16 Dec 2003 20:46 - 1129 of 11003

Many thanks for the input,i think i might have cracked it:-)

after installing the OS the 1st thing i do is download zone alarm and install norton antivirus to cover the computer then i installed this united devices cancer thingy that works in background and i think that was the trouble,since then it has only crashed once in a 90 minutes so it is getting better the onboard temperature sensor says 39 degrees which i think is avarage so i understand.

will have another go later,will keep you updated and once again thanks for your help:-)

Rick...

Kayak - 16 Dec 2003 21:14 - 1130 of 11003

That doesn't actually prove much since one would expect both heat-related and memory-related problems to get worse with something CPU-intensive running in the background. Best of luck with it though. 39 degrees is OK for the motherboard but more determining would be the CPU temperature and CPU fan speed if your motherboard has sensors for them.

Spaceman - 16 Dec 2003 22:51 - 1131 of 11003

Mega Bucks and co, the cancer thing will probably push the CPU up to 100% and this make it produce a fair bit of heat. That's should be fine and even long periods at 100% should not cause it to shutdown, if that is the cause I think you should investigate a bit more. A few pointers, did you seat the heat sink properly and use a good contact compound between the heat sink and the CPU? are the case fans OK and running in the correct direction, taking air out of the case? Is the CPU over clocked? if so you might need to push the voltages up a bit from the BIOS. Is the power supply good enough? don't underestimate this one power supplies can be a real pain.

Mega Bucks - 17 Dec 2003 21:51 - 1132 of 11003

Spaceman and co...

Many thanks for the info,found out by elimination that it was the cancer thingy that froze the computer so decided not to install.

It had all the hallmarks of over heating on checking the cpu temperature it was ok then thought what else had i done as i had only installed zonealarm and cancer thing took them off and bingo it is great:-)

Once again many thanks to you all....

Mega...
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