Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

You are a boastful fellow!

Aren't you?

New Year , same shit by remoaners.

86 days to go , get over it.

Tic toc.

For those who have the patience to reflect.

Interesting informed comparisons.

Rather than Peter Pan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zBFh6bpcMo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zBFh6bpcMo

So Seaborne Freight, the firm without any ships which has been hired by Failing Grayling to sort out the potential no-deal Brexit ferry mess, appears to have copied its T&C's from a takeaway restaurant?

Really??!!??

:o)

https://twitter.com/ormondroyd/status/1080596127274225667/photo/1

Further probing finds a number of other oddities on the firm's website, including:

- Its log-in portal redirects directly to Google's home page;

- Neither of the listed phone numbers appear to be manned, with both stating 'there is no one available to take your call' and offering no chance to leave a message;

- Other features, such as language settings, are only for show and cannot be clicked on; and

- Despite Grayling saying they are on track to run services from April, the ferry-free firm's recruitment page is currently empty.

The terms and conditions appear to have been changed today but can still be seen via online archiving services.

https://seabornefreight.com

it's still just a cardboard company, but earlier info looks like misinfo too

Reflect all you want Fred on why you didn't vote , rest of us have no need ( except Stan who didn't understand the question so wants another referendum for him and another couple of hundred just to piss the whole 34 million who did understand it off ) .




Worried how your gonna get back home Hils ? We don't really care to be honest :-)

Tic toc.

The EU is in good hands now that the Romanians are running the show, Hilary. Maybe we will get a European Standard for ATM skimmers.

Dil stop being beastly to the remoaners. Life bad enough for them as it is and I keep p****** myself at your posts.

Why would I worry how I'm gonna get home, Dilbert? The Europeans have never failed to make me welcome in their land.

On the other hand, you're the one who reguarly posts in the early hours of the morning once the pubs have shut. May I suggest you always keep a wellie to hand, and keep a watchful eye out for the sheep if you go out after dark.

Dear O dear some very racist stereotyping going on here.

one thing the latest flurry of so-called polls shows, regardless of which wing of the media they emanate, is that the country is no less splintered than it ever was

Yeah , not like you would ever call me a sheep shagger or anything is it M :-)

And to put the record straight Hils , I don't have any wellies , last time I saw a sheep it was cut up in pieces in ASDA and the last time I went out and got in after 12 was Nov 30th when I went down to Cardiff to watch a Friday night match v Wolves. Didn't even go out New Years Eve so I confess to being sober when I post as I don't drink at home.

12 weeks to go Hils , book a ticket now if you want to come back , plenty of little boats available from Calais apparently but watch out for the Royal Navy.

Dil because of Tory cutbacks we don't have a navy anymore...can't afford one apparently.

Hilary is stalking you Dil and concerned about your welfare. All that talk about gammon is a camouflage, she really likes Welsh rarebit. No need to explain, play hard to get.

She loves me really :-)

Stan , at least the Tories have a defence policy unlike Burnley and the Labour rabble.

Thanks for the concern, Dilbert, but if ever I need to go to the UK, I can fly Sovereign into Biggin Hill. They'll continue to operate after Brexit gets cancelled.

Andrew Adonis argues Brexit has all the morbid symptoms of being in its death throes

I don’t have direct experience, but from my increasingly frequent observation as a 55-year-old, there is no such thing as a ‘good death’. Just death, which is always horrible and sometimes horrendous in its final stages. Brexit is no exception.

We are clearly in the death throes. Morbid symptoms are overwhelming. The ‘last chance’ operation had to be cancelled before Christmas because the patient wasn’t well enough.

There were hopes that Dr Merkel would offer a more favourable second opinion after the country GP, Jean-Claude, and the in-house surgeon, Barnier, pronounced the case hopeless. A big attempt was made to persuade Theresa, the adoptive parent with power of attorney, to transfer poor Brexit to a hospice with the attractive name ‘People’s Hope’.

But it came to nothing. Like her mentor Margaret Thatcher during the long agonising demise of her favourite child, Poll Tax, Theresa simply can’t let go of Brexit. She continues to dream that a new cure will appear from Germany, so the operation has been rescheduled for January 15. But Dr Merkel is so busy trying to resuscitate her close friend Emmanuel that she has no time or inclination to help.

Anyway, the cause is hopeless. Brexit’s vital organs are ceasing to function. The original prescriptions on the side of a bus – notably ‘£350m a week for the NHS’ – were long ago abandoned. An experimental treatment tried last autumn – ‘Irish backstop’ – has had appalling side effects, including delusions of an invasion of orange men with VASSAL and MOGG emblazoned on front and back.

The question now is what to do after January 15, assuming the patient does not die immediately. There is some chance that Theresa will transfer Brexit to the People’s Hope hospice after all, which would be best for all concerned. The hospice’s two living rooms, called ‘second referendum’ and ‘extend Article 50’, are loud and boisterous. No one pretends that the end will come peacefully. But at least there will be no more operations and Theresa and her family can soon get on with their lives, including the increasingly urgent task of earning money and paying bills after so long on compassionate leave.

The problem is what happens if Theresa still refuses the hospice. There is much debate about whether the nurses, led by Hammond and Lidington, will use morphine, while everyone turns a blind eye.

But the whole issue might end up again in the High Court of Parliament, where eminent lawyers like Dominic Grieve and Sir Keir Starmer are likely to press the case for Brexit’s transfer to People’s Hope being taken out of Theresa’s hands because of diminished responsibility.

Uncle Jeremy is a problem here. He is curiously fond of his adoptive niece Brexit, having played a large part in her childhood, although historically the two branches of the family were estranged. But another uncle, John Mac, is increasingly forthright on the need to end the suffering. He has started holding secret consultations with Sir Keir and others, and is likely to present Jeremy with a fait accompli, supported by the wider Labour part of the Britannia family which can’t see any point in delaying the inevitable.

The problem for Theresa isn’t only the handling of Brexit’s final days but also her obituaries and funeral. Usually these ease the pain at the end, on the principle de mortuis nil nisi bonum (‘of the dead nothing but good’).

But of Brexit, who went so badly astray in her last two years in particular, almost no one has a good word to say. Theresa, like Scrooge at Marley’s funeral, may be the sole mourner. And even she may be too ill to attend.

However, all is not lost. I have seen a copy of Brexit’s will. It gives explicit instructions that there are to be no funeral or eulogies. “I realise I have been a cause of much pain and grief,” it reads. “But I am part of a proud and prosperous European family. I know I was a rebel but the truth is that through this severe illness we all came to realise that, after all, Europeans are a good and wise people. I want my friends and relations to be reconciled to them and make the best of their lives.”

Amen. Hallelujah.

A two-way referendum would see 29% of Tory members endorse the PM’s stance, with 64% voting for a no-deal Brexit, according to the YouGov poll funded by Economic and Social Research Council.
The overwhelming rejection of Mrs May’s deal shown in the survey comes at a crucial time for the PM as she faces a crunch Commons vote on her plans.

How dare you Dil, now that Tom is in charge our defence is water tight.. well nearly -):