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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


Bugz - 11 Oct 2005 16:31 - 11138 of 27111

Its only a UK binding contract Kong

Biscuit - 11 Oct 2005 16:32 - 11139 of 27111

"Major steps are also being made in both Europe and North America towards the commercialisation of a number of projects, particularly those involving Biotec's materials and Stanelco intends to update the market with these developments shortly"

Enough said

bosley - 11 Oct 2005 16:33 - 11140 of 27111

kong, i would accept what you say if this was a different company, but, this seo and no-one can deny that they are extremely trigger happy when it comes to making announcements.

KingKonggb - 11 Oct 2005 16:34 - 11141 of 27111

Thanx Bugz. Now if other US (not necessarily Walmart) and maybe even European retailers adopted Greenseal then we could certainly see a much needed injection into the SP. What was the recent RNS update quoting about US and Europe? Yep, it could be......

Kong

shamona - 11 Oct 2005 16:34 - 11142 of 27111

greekman

With respect if you're after an unbiased opinion masterson is hardly the person to be asking, try bosley or driver.

shamona - 11 Oct 2005 16:38 - 11143 of 27111

kk, you know and I know that if SEO had conversion contracts signed and sealed they would rns that news, infact they'd probably rns the contract and when the conversion was completed; don't look for things that are not there as wishfull thinking in the stock market is an expensive game!

TheFrenchConnection - 11 Oct 2005 16:38 - 11144 of 27111

Amities / SS What do you mean when you say i must have lost out ? Lest it has unescaped your notice i have been short on SEO since it was 22p. l am not holding a long. @+

proptrade - 11 Oct 2005 16:48 - 11145 of 27111

what a crappy day! personally i do see a bounce from here after the panic selling today... i maintain that the 20p days will take a long time to reemerge..

paulmasterson1 - 11 Oct 2005 16:49 - 11146 of 27111






KBC Peel Hunt 06/09/2005

Stronger balance sheet. The recent fund raising and part sale of
Biotec has improved the groups cash position from the start of the
year with a current cash balance of around 7m.




EVO 04/10/2005

Mkt Cap 151m Net Cash 10m


Part of the difference is no doubt in the Biotec deal

Stanelco and SP Metal had initially agreed to increase Biotec's production
capacity of biodegradable pellets to at least 12,000 metric tonnes within nine
months via a joint investment programme of up to 4.5m. However due to further
recent improvements in both the production procedures and the ability to process
the materials, a capacity of 24,000 tonnes for an investment of 2m is now
envisaged within the same period.


Anyway, the bashers lose again, their lies are exposed yet again .... NEXT !!!!



greekman - 11 Oct 2005 16:51 - 11147 of 27111

shamona

I don't mind anyones views on my previous post, they are all welcome as long as they are sensible comments. I asked Paul as he has the best expertise for research on this thread. I don't always agree with his views and in the past he has not always agreed with me but we have never got personal. His research has done more to assist me and than most. I always dmor and dont take anything as gospel. Please anyone wishing to comment re the Ossid tray sealer do so.

greekman - 11 Oct 2005 16:56 - 11148 of 27111

Yet again still comments re RNS for every contracts signed. I suggest we close the argument. There are some that continue to state an announcement will be released at every contract ( for contract I keep reading every machine conversion ) and those like myself who don't expect an announcement in these circumstances. We can argue this forever, and it will mean nothing. Lets agree to differ and allow time to tell. If I am wrong I will admit same.

Oilywag - 11 Oct 2005 17:02 - 11149 of 27111

PM1

Surely you knew about the Ossid tray. It must have come up in your research. If it did, then you have only been informing people of what you personally consider positive about SEO to this board.

If it didn't, then you must have a very funny filter on your search engine which to excludes material "contrary to the future business prospects of SEO"

Any comments?

The oily one

oblomov - 11 Oct 2005 17:04 - 11150 of 27111


Paul,

I assure you I am not baiting you, trying to trap you , being facetious etc. but you say:-

'Anyway, the bashers lose again, their lies are exposed yet again .... NEXT !!!! '

Just so we dont miss anything - what lies are you referring to, please? I'm sure I cant be the only one who misses your point.

bhunt1910 - 11 Oct 2005 17:05 - 11151 of 27111

As the sp has dropped to c12p, if the no of shares in issue is approx 800m - then the share capitalisation is less than 100m.

Is that likely to trigger a sell off from some of the institutions who buy small caps >100m?. It seemed to be a trigger on the way up when we broached the 100m fugure - so surely the reverse will happen on the way down.

Anyone know?

shamona - 11 Oct 2005 17:05 - 11152 of 27111

This from the Hardman report over a year ago(see below), just goes to show how wrong the so called experts can be. One also notes Masterson rolling out the broker forecasts, if they can't even get within 3 million pounds for the correct cash at hand then the rest of us have no hope. One also notes he rolls out the "basher" stuff, no one bashed anything! some questioned why it might be falling so quickly but i never read anything else.

HARDMAN REPORT SEPT 04

The recently announced licensing agreement with Robert Reiser & Company, Inc, is a potential breakthrough for Stanelco. Stanelco is granting Reiser an exclusive licence in the US and Canada for its RF sealing technology to be used in tray lidding machines, together with a non-exclusive licence for other technologies. Reiser was the pioneer of the tray lidding market, but we understand its market share has declined so that it is now the second or third largest player in this market; its move to RF could be a way to regain share. The Reiser agreement envisages 100 machines being converted from thermal sealing to RF over the next year. However we believe it is likely that more machines will in fact be converted, with 100 merely the minimum firmcommitment. Some retrofitting will be carried out as well as producing new machines with RF rather than thermal sealing. We believe the venture could make 3m turnover for Stanelco in its first year. Because royalties are paid on an annual basis, Stanelco will be creating a source of recurring income, so that a similar level of sales in the second year would see turnover double. Our projections are based on Stanelco adding 100-200 machines a year, giving them 1,000 machines by 2009 still only 10% of the total market as it is today, with no assumption of market growth (in fact, the market is growing, particularly in the US). That is in our view a highly conservative projection



shamona - 11 Oct 2005 17:09 - 11153 of 27111

bhunt

Their are 928 million shares in issue

qc - 11 Oct 2005 17:14 - 11154 of 27111

yeah on this issue I agree with sham :-)

There is indeed 928m shares in issue.

paulmasterson1 - 11 Oct 2005 17:14 - 11155 of 27111


Greekman Hi,

Re the Ossid tray sealer, just been reading it, and it doesn't say how it seals the trays, but it sounds like they are using stretchy cling flim, maybe they glue it, but it doesn't sound like it does MAP, and that is Greenseals killer punch.

Maybe we will get to see more on it later, it would be interesting to see exactly how it works, so as to form an educated opinion, but the article as is, does not provide enough answers.

It says 'foam trays', and so that is another reason why I don't see it as MAP possible, all the gas would leak trough the foam !

Cheers,
PM

paulmasterson1 - 11 Oct 2005 17:18 - 11156 of 27111





Oily Hi,

Blah blah blah .... you said she said he said .... blah blah blah .... did didn't should have could have .... blah blah blah !

Get a grip mate, your starting to sound like ii or the sham .... that article only came out TODAY !!!!

Ossid Corporation, 2005-Oct-11


Some of us have to work for a living ....

Cheers,
PM



Snip - 11 Oct 2005 17:23 - 11157 of 27111

proptrade
today was just normal for a day when the share was being actively traded. There is weakness but this was absolutely not panic selling. That may still happen. Lots of the buys came in because day-trading shorters were closing after seeing profits. IMO this is happening because the bid/offer price is pretty narrow
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