cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
cynic
- 15 Feb 2008 14:24
- 1115 of 21973
strorey .... indices are not designed to be restful! .... it's their very volatility that makes them good to trade
stroreysj
- 15 Feb 2008 14:34
- 1116 of 21973
Cynic im not disputing that. Maybe it was new toy which i over played when i set up the IG account but I spent my entire day watching tick by tick switching to a gambling mentality rather than researching value stories and effectively trading and making money. Respect to anyone who can do both
cynic
- 15 Feb 2008 14:53
- 1117 of 21973
i don't do research ... far too idle
cynic
- 15 Feb 2008 15:16
- 1118 of 21973
going blind! ..... indices are flip-flopping about for now so have closed out both dow and ftse for decent profits
will watch more sporadically with a view to perhaps getting back in again later .... if dow tumbles while i am away, will look (probably) to go long at about 12200
bhunt1910
- 15 Feb 2008 15:21
- 1119 of 21973
stroreysj - I can empathise with the gambling bit.
Have only been doing this a few days and have been sucked in big time. Am loving it - but am totally knackered as all I do is watch every little tick and decide what to do. I have become a gambler - which worries me - 'cos that is not what I set out to do - Problem is I find I am enjoying it.
Made my first real profit today and managed to claw back what I lost yesterday - so have decided to call it a day today and try and keep my profit !!
Thanks again to those willing to post their thoughts on here. I am not a financial analyst - so I am grateful to those that are willing to post their thoughts on here very useful indeed.
explosive
- 15 Feb 2008 19:20
- 1120 of 21973
Been shorting DOW and GBP/JPY all day, very happy...
Done it again, wrote DOW instead of Wall St. ....Must break the habit...
explosive
- 15 Feb 2008 19:39
- 1121 of 21973
Swiss Franc falling nicely away now, looks undervalued to turn soon, anyone also watching GBP/CHF
BigTed
- 15 Feb 2008 22:25
- 1122 of 21973
Lot more reading, and its all doom and gloom in the states, quite surprised that it is holding this level, and to think two nights ago i bottled clicking the button as a short at 12570, gut and instincts come to mind...
spitfire43
- 16 Feb 2008 08:54
- 1123 of 21973
gut and instinct is warning me that dow could go pop next week, it's held above 12200 well considering all the doom and gloom about. tempted to open short fairly small position with wide S/L and try and follow it down.
target 5300 on ftse
cynic
- 16 Feb 2008 09:17
- 1124 of 21973
with Dow closing at 12350 and staying there after hours, its next direction is anyone's guess ..... in the very very short term, how F/E reacts may give some clue .... in the longer term, do not forget that the markets tend to look about 6 months forward, so if any recession is perceived as being not too deep or long-lived, the up-trend, supported from memory at 12200 or thereabouts, may continue .... nevertheless, volatility is almost guaranteed, giving a lot of opportunity to make (or lose) money
just noticed ..... Wall Street closed Monday
moneyplus
- 16 Feb 2008 14:15
- 1125 of 21973
I've always been very nervous of trading but reading your comments I'm tempted to dip my toe in!! Buy and hold is a disaster at the moment nearly all my stocks are red. I've just ordered some books to educate myself on s/betting --that should keep me busy for a while.
cynic
- 16 Feb 2008 14:46
- 1126 of 21973
be well warned that trading the indices requires much diligence
spitfire43
- 16 Feb 2008 16:22
- 1127 of 21973
Wall Street closed Monday!!!! thats a bit ominous, the last time on 21st Jan markets misbehaved with FTSE down 323 points on the day. Until the cat returned to restore some order.
BigTed
- 16 Feb 2008 16:51
- 1128 of 21973
Am in agreement with Richard, that because the markets look forward, (near) recession is pretty well priced in, although still think any serious bad data, will have the dow tumbling one last time, before gaining some respectability.
In the same instance, the problem to watch in the future will be inflation, because if the americans are enticed back to borrowing lots more dosh this year, which is inevitable, there may be bigger problems ahead when interest rates have to go up sharply next year...
halifax
- 16 Feb 2008 17:11
- 1129 of 21973
Come on scarebabies the slowdown in global economies will not manifest itself before 3rd quarter 2008 by which time it will become apparent that the doomsters have been proven to be just a bunch of scaremongers. It is very difficult to change a supertankers course all we need is a temporary speed reduction. Inflation is not to be feared but controlled this should not prove too difficult with the oil price likely to fall to $65/70 in the near term.
spitfire43
- 17 Feb 2008 10:16
- 1130 of 21973
I read some books last year which gave accounts on how the media and investors re-act in a slow down, where the worst case scenaro is forecast by the media etc, and investors start to worry that this is the end of the western economy, should they move money to China, India, Brazil or Panama etc, etc, whatever. It's interesting seeing this play out now, some of the comments I read or hear are approaching fever pitch right now.
I intend to keep my head down and take advantage of volaility in some situation's, and try and slowly pick up some stock in good quality companies. I noticed Warren Buffett has dusted his cheque book off last week, and is starting to pick up some bargains.
martynz
- 17 Feb 2008 13:03
- 1131 of 21973
Hi,all would agree with idea of BRICS and whether or not they can decouple
has anyone out there used or started to use EtF,s how do they compare to
spread bets / covered warrents bit mistified by their charges and seem to be
a vast range of them has anyone used particular issuer ie ishares or db any advice
on trading indicies v equities ... thanks
cynic
- 17 Feb 2008 16:48
- 1132 of 21973
oil price likely to fall to $65/70 in the near term ..... remember that halifax, for it may well come back to haunt you ...meanwhile, i trust that to back your forecast, you have shorted crude heavily ... please confirm
halifax
- 17 Feb 2008 17:02
- 1133 of 21973
Most certainly will when decline starts next month trust you still have your NRK short now it is being nationalised?
cynic
- 17 Feb 2008 17:55
- 1134 of 21973
not for ages .... more to the point, wish i had shorted MPH having posted loud and clear what crap management it had and how it would come home to roost in due course .... sooner than expected it has to be said