Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Perhaps, you have forgotten the spivs who many "thugs" thought sold out the UK.

A pity that it wasn't TM.

And everyone at the table on our side is "Con"sevative...well well!

Ha! Ha! I thought I would post about the Labour liar facing jail before you did Fred, I only just made it by the look of it.

May I just remind you George that thread is about the Referendum that the Tory dummy Cameron called that has gone horribly wrong not only for you Tories but for the whole of the UK.

Any other stuff should go on another thread.

Yes, and all Englishmen with the name George are liars?

Aren't they?

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Get somebody to buy you a book recently published.

HOW TO BE RIGHT by JAMES O'BRIEN.

Then try reading it.

(The book irritated me a little, but the underlying message is appropriate, for some.)

Cue Stan for Fred's post? I won't hold my breath.

Actually the Onasanya thing is very pertinent to Brexit!

Peterborough is hyper-marginal - Onasanya snatched it from the Tories in 2017 by just over 600 votes, and it's 13th in the Conservative hitlist to regain. She's pro-EU, calling for a second referendum, whereas the former Tory MP was an arch-Brexiteer.

A by-election there could influence the Brexit outcome dramatically.

Edit: If sentenced to less than 12 months, she'll be allowed to hold on to her seat, so there wouldn't be a by-election.

Interesting possible effect!

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UK house prices take pre-Brexit hit - Nationwide
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A worker uses a stair at a construction site in central London, Britain November 2, 2016. REUTERS/Stefan Wermuth
LONDON (Reuters) - British house prices took a pre-Brexit hit in December, falling by the most in monthly terms since mid-2012 and rising by their slowest pace in nearly six years in annual terms, according to data from mortgage lender Nationwide.

House prices fell by 0.7 percent from November, the biggest monthly fall since July 2012, Friday’s data showed.

Compared with a year earlier, prices rose by just 0.5 percent compared with a 1.9 percent rise in November.

Both readings were below all forecasts in a Reuters poll of economists.

Nationwide said it expected prices to rise at a “low single-digit pace” in 2019 but its forecast was dependent on the economy continuing to grow modestly, something that looked “unusually uncertain.”

Prime Minister Theresa May is struggling to overcome deep opposition in her own Conservative Party to the Brexit divorce deal she agreed with other European Union leaders, raising the prospect of an economically damaging no-deal departure from the EU in March.

Britain’s housing market has weakened since the June 2016 Brexit vote, led by price falls in London.

At the time of the referendum, Nationwide’s measure of house prices was rising by about 5 percent a year.

Bank of England Governor Mark Carney said last month that in the event of a “disorderly” departure from the EU — not the central bank’s base-case scenario — house prices could slump by 30 percent as part of a broader economic shock.

Writing by William Schomberg; Editing by John Stonestreet

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

No, she has promised to stay on and serve her constituents diligently, jail time permitting. It is reported that she has more than 5,000 unanswered messages from constituents so she needs to get cracking.

The Representation of the People Act 1981 states that any MP will be disqualified from sitting as an MP if they are “detained anywhere in the British Islands or the Republic of Ireland ... for more than a year for any offence”.

George pay attention there's a good boy.

House prices near me are taking a hit not because of Brexit - but because there are too many poorly built new houses on the market! You should see the number of new houses with scaffolding outside put up soon after the new purchaser had moved in. The older houses are having to drop in price, because the new houses have so many "offers" attached (no stamp duty, low deposits, help to buy etc) - just normally market forces.

I'm sure Carney gets his figures from a dart board, he's an exceptional forecaster when it comes to getting it wrong. Project fear in orbit.

as i wrote earlier ......
one thing the latest flurry of so-called polls shows, regardless from which wing of the media they emanate, is that the country is no less splintered than it ever was

it follows that if there was a 2nd referendum - corbyn has decided he doesn't want (at least for today) and TM doesn't - then the result would similarly split as previously (one side or the other with a ~4% margin) .......
further, i fear the turnout would be very low (fred is inconsequential as always) for many reasons, not least that the country has more than fatigued of the continuous bickering by all sides

Manuel,

For an i. who complains he is bored with "Brexit" debacle, you seem to spend a large amount of your time making comments.

Look the other way man.

Oi Stan , those of us who understood the the referendum thought it went pretty good.

Re house prices ... didn't they go up and down before the referendum just as night follows day.

Getting desperate now Fred.

for someone who refuses to vote on this or any other issue, fred doesn't half make a lot of noise

Understood? So what did you understand about the referendum Dil?