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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


shamona - 11 Oct 2005 19:59 - 11166 of 27111

Don't you knw the fd's name?

Strange he would announce price sensitive news such as conversions to a total stranger.

shamona - 11 Oct 2005 20:04 - 11167 of 27111

Hardman report september 04

Where did the hardman analyst get their figures from? It states minimum requirement in year one, 100 conversions.

Either they were told porkies(which is worrying) or reiser changed their mind(which is also worring), it's time they started explaining what happened to these forgotten rns releases; lets hope they're aware releasing false news is illegal and can lead to a prison sentence. Hardman were paid to write this up by Stanelco if anyone didn't know.

"The Reiser agreement envisages 100 machines being converted from thermal sealing to RF over the next year. However we believe it is likely that more machines will in fact be converted, with 100 merely the minimum firmcommitment."

shamona - 11 Oct 2005 20:06 - 11168 of 27111

EWR

Why should I believe all is well with the 200 Asda machines when as far as we know Reiser didn't convert a single machine?

Same promise, different day.

ssanebs - 11 Oct 2005 20:06 - 11169 of 27111

Ring him and ask him in the morning ,he rang me at my office in gloucester at 11.15. And i got the same comment from tim freeborn at EVO who said there is no doubt that more GS machines have been installed but the question is how far are they from ten or + so that they can make a worthwhile rns. and there was nothing price sensitive in what he said as the city knows that they are in a 12 month deal to supply asda which started in july and it will be 200+ machines

ssanebs - 11 Oct 2005 20:11 - 11170 of 27111

by the way i was short until today , and i beklieve we will hear in the the morning that simon c has closed his short today.

Oilywag - 11 Oct 2005 21:25 - 11171 of 27111

PM1

Your response to my enquiries re Ossid was justified because I missed the date of the release. This is no personal attack on yourself. I am on a mission to get as much totally objective posting on this board so that people have balanced information on which to base their investment decisions.

To this end I shall be questioning everyone, no matter which side of the tracks (in their investment strategies) they are, about the details in their posts and by doing this I hope to provide a middle of the road service to readers of this and other boards.

Hope you understand.

The oily one

Oilywag - 11 Oct 2005 21:39 - 11172 of 27111

Eric

Another great and well reasoned post which said so many things that I have been unable to articulate myself.

Pity more people cannot make such thoughtful and thought provoking posts as your and a couple of others.

The oily one

NielsJensen - 11 Oct 2005 21:41 - 11173 of 27111

Well, I think a new rabbit will be pulled soon. It will die, just like the share price. Have you not noticed that whenever the price drops a new rabbit is pulled from hat? Latest being the cigi-filters. Keep an eye on that, and watch it die too..

paulmasterson1 - 11 Oct 2005 21:47 - 11174 of 27111


Oily Hi,

Ok, that sounds fair to me, just be careful how you question though, as you might know I had another run in with oblomov for just this reason, because to imply things with your question(like you implied I was being deceiful) is not middle of the road.

Ask questions by all means, but please leave ALL the answers to the person you are aiming the question at, and then you will be considered to be in the middle ground :)

Verifying facts is also a good thing to do before questioning, and you can see that 99% of my posts contain verifiable information, and anyone is welcome to e-mail me to discuss anything else.

Cheers,
PM

Oilywag - 11 Oct 2005 21:52 - 11175 of 27111

PM1

I shall be truce to you if you are truce to me!

The oily one

paulmasterson1 - 11 Oct 2005 21:54 - 11176 of 27111


Niels Hi,

Stop reading Watership Down before bed .... LOL !

Will it be a Wal-Mart Wite Wabbit or an Albertsons Albino ????

Cheers,
PM

paulmasterson1 - 11 Oct 2005 21:56 - 11177 of 27111


Oily .... LOL !

NielsJensen - 11 Oct 2005 22:28 - 11178 of 27111

Paul, watch the rabbits, watch them die, one by one. Frogpack, Starpol 2000, Greenseal, and now filters. What's next? Something new and wonderful, to make you all rich, I'm sure.

I wish you luck, You'll need it.

bosley - 11 Oct 2005 23:38 - 11179 of 27111

blimey, niels, i didn't take you for a bunny boiler!!!
ssanebs conversation with seo means i was incorrect about seo announcing each conversion. it also means they are not upto 10 yet. is that with the 5 we know about or without?
eric, i always appreciate your posts but, when you say,

"My view is that the 200 machines from ASDA can be taken as read. "

i disagree. i do not think anything should be taken as "read" in the current climate. also, broker's forcasts keep changing. what will they be in 6 months time?

KingKonggb - 12 Oct 2005 00:03 - 11180 of 27111

We don't know how many machines have been converted to date. It could be 5 , it could be alot more.

Enough said

Kong

dawall - 12 Oct 2005 00:31 - 11181 of 27111

NielsJensen, post 11178

Don't see too many facts or evidence to back up your claim that all SEO's technology will die. Can you back this claim up idiot? If not shut up.

stockdog - 12 Oct 2005 05:01 - 11182 of 27111

In film editing there is an expression "to kill the darlings", which refers to cutting the director's favourite scenes which, although beautiful in themselves, are detracting from the narrative whole. I guess, Neils, you must have been a film editor in your previous life. That's the only way I can understand the sudden virulence of your attack on our darling rabbits. And I always took you for a level-headed Scandinavian, albeit you can't always spell (lol). The new ruthless Neils has perfect 20:20 spelling, I see.

However, it seems you may be right - currently there may be just too many rabbits to all survive in a hutch of limited size and some do have to go, if only to make room for stronger ones to breed more vigourously over the next 2-3 years. But, difficult as it may be to decide which ones to cull, I am not convinced that mass slaughter of all of them is a valid alternative.

Today, I am not even sure which are the rabbits and which the rabbit-keeper - all I can see is a pair of dazzling headlights which stop me thinking with clarity. Should I continue to cross the road or try to make it back to the safety of the verge? Is it better to lose my front legs or my back legs? Perhaps, what is happening is that the rabbit-keeper cannot bear to watch his rabbits being flattened as they escape over the main road and he is attempting to rescue them from amidst a never-ending stream of impersonal cars driven by cold-hearted market-makers (sorry, I meant drivers). HELP ME, my hands, feet and brain are becoming furry!

Apart from watching SEO's chart drop inexorably in classic, and therefore statistically predictable, mode whilst maintaining an attitude of bravura denial, the rest of my portfolio is also going through a dull to negative patch whilst I watch all those wild rabbits cavorting on the distant meadow always willing to jump into someone else's hutch, never mine. Should I leave the hutch and joing them - sorry, I mean catch them. Why do all these rabbits keep coming up to the wire to feed me? Are they inside the hutch, or outside? If outside, where does that leave me? Oh hell, it's happening again. Who am I, rabbit or keeper?

In the end, over time, being an investor who does not short stocks, fundamental value will out and I believe (can't say 'know' or 'am certain' - more an act of informed faith) SEO will be worth well over 1.00 at some time in the not too distant future. However, it is that dimension of time, I think, that is the crucial ingredient that can turn stalwart trust into a psychological maelstrom. The risk that you may extinguish your capital before you see true value, the inevitable and justifiable thoughts that external forces of evil along the way may hijack the company's fortunes meanwhile, creates the turmoil in each of us that, en masse, we call the market.

(For those interested, the same structural arguments lead one to understand why so many bad films are made, when there must be enough expertise around by now to distinguish what scripts will and what won't make a good'un - but that's going way off thread, even for this whacky post!)

Why we feel good about financial wealth and bad about lack thereof, whilst we are seemingly content to suffer the most appalling mental anguish in its pursuit is another part of the mystery. With no rabbits, at least one could live in the hutch, albeit in circumstances somewhat reduced from ones aspirations and with a slight wheeze in the lungs as a reminder of its past occupants.

So much for avoidance tactics - time for a decision. Do I continue to hold my SEO rabbits in the belief that a) in a year's time the current dip will seem irrelevant or, b) the SP must be near its low, so no point in selling now? Or do I sell all, hoping to get back in lower down. Perhaps, there is a middle way - sell half to preserve capital and keep half to satisfy my faith? No one can tell how much further this has to fall, although some time ago I recall suggesting to someone that, if it broke 18p, there was nothing in the TA (other than a flimsy 14p break-fall) to stop it retracing all the way to 4p. However, I have come to the conclusion somewhat late in life that those who are best able to offer advice to others, whilst failing to take heed of it themsleves, are destined to a salaried existence.

Well, there you have it, my soul bared like a skinned rabbit. Does this ring any bells with anyone else out there? Does anyone have a quick remedy for this malady?

All help appreciated - a wife, kids and family of rabbits to support!

Stock (Rabid - sic) Dog


paulmasterson1 - 12 Oct 2005 06:24 - 11183 of 27111

What a total load of lies !!!! .... The Guardian suggests this, but NO BROKER HAS LOWERED FORECASTS, DEFINATELY NOT IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS ANYWAY !!!! ..... Among the small caps Stanelco, the packaging technology specialist, fell 1.75p to 12.25p in heavy volume amid rumours that several analysts had moved to lower their forecasts.

ghengis101 - 12 Oct 2005 07:08 - 11184 of 27111


good RNS this morning !!!

ssanebs - 12 Oct 2005 07:12 - 11185 of 27111

well there you have it. Asda on paper saying that 200 machines will be installed by july 28 2006. now plus Starpol 2000.........the story just getting better with each rns
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