Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Manuel.

You don't have far to look for a bonehead.

Try a mirror.

😂

A few snippets which may be of interest to some. (Not those blinkered by prejudices.)

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Is a customs union different from a free trade area or the single market?

A customs union is different from a free trade area, in which means no tariffs are charged on goods and services moving within the area.

The single market is a broader agreement that encompasses the free movement of goods, services, capital and people.

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How big could the impact of leaving the customs union be?

Around 43 per cent of Britain’s exports go to the EU, according to the Office of National Statistics. They would likely be subject to import tariffs as well as extra administrative costs.

Trade deals take a long time to negotiate. The UK would also be in a far less advantageous negotiating position on its own.

(Especially, if you look at the negotiating skills of the present 18mths with Dil Likes or Manuels in charge.)

Being the world’s largest economic trading bloc with 500 million relatively wealthy consumers gives the EU hefty clout, which the UK alone cannot match.

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If the UK did not negotiate a trade deal with the EU before Brexit, it would have to trade on standard tariffs under World Trade Organisation rules.

An analysis found that the cost to Britain’s exporters - in extra tariffs alone - would be at least £4.5bn per year. This estimate does not include the difficult-to-measure costs of non-tariff barriers, such as the enforcement of different market standards and regulations.

The extra costs on companies could force them to relocate UK operations within the EU after Brexit, potentially leading to job cuts.



The latter is being prepared for.

So we save 8 billion by not paying into the EU and business face an extra 4.5 billion in costs per year.

Seems a good deal to me.

What about the 40 odd billion that we owe the EU for leaving?

From post 11193

A few snippets which may be of interest to some. (Not those blinkered by prejudices.)

So of no interest to you then Fred

Selective Stan

We don't owe the EU £39b, what we do have to pay (rightly so imo) is the ongoing costs for already agreed 'projects' (for want of a better word)

https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/

No good at links, also not too sure whether it's factual.

But one for Fred and Stan :-)

I was interested.

Were you?

Or do you prefer sniping?

Stan , if we leave with no deal a lot of the 39 billion we will not have to pay.

We are not leaving now thankfully.. keep up please Dil.

Fred with reference to sniping have a look at 11168

Prodman,

Thanks for the bedtime reading,

https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/

Very interesting.

I tried checking and it seems veracious, even if confusing. (To me.)

Welcome to the cabinet government of decisions.

Your party followers are proud of you!

Stand up Dil and George and be ready to serve:

What a pity you don't get behind the democratic vote and be positive about a country that has obviously looked after you and yours extremely well.

A country which has lost its sense of direction?

Mrs May is as slippery as an eel on Marr show.

Is that second cartoon Corby's defence policy Fred ?