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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Cerise Noire Girl - 06 Jan 2019 16:14 - 11217 of 12628

If you don't understand what that means, Dilbert, I'll explain it for you.

Basically, it means the beginning of the end of Brexit. I'm sure you'll get over it. But if you don't, j'en ai plus rien à foutre.

:o)

iturama - 06 Jan 2019 16:47 - 11218 of 12628

Standing orders are procedural, Hilary. They do not have the force of law as they do not constitute an Act of Parliament or regulations. The Withdrawal Act is an act of Parliament.

Cerise Noire Girl - 06 Jan 2019 17:05 - 11219 of 12628

Try reading the text of Grieve's amendment a second time, iturama. And if you still don't understand what it means, ask Fred or Stan.

Cerise Noire Girl - 06 Jan 2019 17:14 - 11220 of 12628

Here's a hint...

Standing Orders of the House of Commons - Public Business 2013

General debates

24B.—
Where, in the opinion of the Speaker or the Chair, a motion, That this House, or, as the case may be, the committee has considered the matter, is expressed in neutral terms, no amendments to it may be tabled.

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2019 17:16 - 11221 of 12628

Above my energy level and pay grade

But very few things other than death are irreversible.

What I do wonder is whether JC will allow free votes.

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Ps.

I have waded through the today's Observer.

Interesting, but very depressing outlook on the world's economy.

Just wondering which country the Brexiters are going to do their deals with.

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2019 17:36 - 11222 of 12628

Anyway, a statement of promise from the present government is like a promissory note from a bankrupt company!

Will they be gone by Xmas?

Cerise Noire Girl - 06 Jan 2019 19:08 - 11223 of 12628

Fred,

As a word of advice going forwards, never suggest that something is outside of your job description. Just tell the gammon that, if they're too stupid to understand what they've voted for, they won't be allowed a vote in the second referendum.

:o)

Dil - 06 Jan 2019 19:23 - 11224 of 12628

Mrs May doesn't agree with you Hils and I'm sure she has been better advised on the legal position than any of us on here.

Slow boat to no deal anyone ?

Cerise Noire Girl - 06 Jan 2019 19:29 - 11225 of 12628

Is that the same Mrs May who promised to get net migration down to the tens of thousands as Home Secretary back in 2010, Dilbert? She was fos then, and nothing's changed now. You still believe any of the cr@p that comes from her mouth??

As a reminder, there's a big difference between denial, and that famous river in Africa!

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2019 20:04 - 11226 of 12628

Dil,

Theresa thinks we will be in uncharted waters if she doesn't get the vote she wants.

I think she is wrong, I think she will be in a sinking boat with the rest of her crew.

Martini - 06 Jan 2019 20:12 - 11227 of 12628

Then you have nothing to worry about. So why do you keep bleating on about how unfair it all is just be like Hilary and tell the drunken sheep f*cker he does not know what he is talking about and leave it at that.

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2019 20:48 - 11228 of 12628

Dil,

Martini has a message for you!

Dil - 06 Jan 2019 21:15 - 11229 of 12628

Lol

Dil - 06 Jan 2019 21:17 - 11230 of 12628

When we leave with no deal first person I'm going to thank is Gina Miller.

Oh the irony of it.

Stan - 06 Jan 2019 22:02 - 11231 of 12628

Wake up outsiders you know as well as most people that the coming Informed Referendum will confirm that we are staying in Europe.. so you better get used to it or emigrate.

Cerise Noire Girl - 07 Jan 2019 09:05 - 11232 of 12628

I thought we'd established last week that Dilbert is actually sober when he sh@gs sheep??!!??

:o)

iturama - 07 Jan 2019 09:09 - 11233 of 12628

11219
Good one Hilary. I'd be better off asking Stan and Ollie. The duo here don't do answers because they don't understand the questions.

Fred1new - 07 Jan 2019 09:49 - 11234 of 12628

IT,

Kitchener needed you, Dil and George in 1914 as fodder.

The world has moved on.

iturama - 07 Jan 2019 10:02 - 11235 of 12628

Only the good die young, Fred. Remind me how old you are again.
The EU has been failing people for years. It has done some good but the attempt to increase the Eurozone by allowing the Mediterranean countries to join based on clear fiddling of accounts has been its achilles heel. As was enlargement. The fact that some many young europeans have decided to come to this country is clear evidence of how it has failed the youth of Europe. The problem now is how it can reform and whether the present crop of "leaders" are capable. Personally, I would trust the likes of Micron to organise a scout troop.

Cerise Noire Girl - 07 Jan 2019 10:07 - 11236 of 12628

And how exactly has the EU failed you personally, iturama?
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