bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
jaguar2
- 12 Oct 2005 12:59
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Does anyone know the shelf life of starpol
paulmasterson1
- 12 Oct 2005 13:00
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Jaguar Hi,
From my website :)
The Stanelco Research Website
Cheers,
PM
paulmasterson1
- 12 Oct 2005 13:03
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Jaguar Hi,
It only biodegrades when micro-organisms can digest it, such as those found in compost heaps, so if your larder or fridge is clean, a long time.
It is intended for short shelf-life products, so no worries on that front.
Cheers,
PM
Fred1new
- 12 Oct 2005 13:05
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Any shorters still out there?
shamona
- 12 Oct 2005 13:08
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LOL!!
So keep it in a clean fridge or cupboard!
Will they print a warning on the package masterson?
So in essence Tetrapack is an educated guess from you?
Fair play but why not say so instead of alluding to knowing inside info!
belisce6
- 12 Oct 2005 13:16
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i personally hope that this sp remains in the 12-13p range up until about Easter of 2006, so that i can slowly but surely continue to increase my stake............
and hopefully by then many of the ASDA greenseal machines will have been implemented with Starpol being used..........and any US deals begin to come in on the back of it.........but i do want a bigger slice of this pie - particularly seeing the foundations that are being built.........
shamona
- 12 Oct 2005 13:23
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A company called Phoqus pharma comes to Aim very soon, they make gelatin free capsules, I've noted the following as part of their marketing drive; would it suggest to anyone that the Ingel/Cardinal deal is dead in the water?
To assist the delivery of its strategy, Phoqus has entered into a strategic alliance with Cardinal Health, Inc. (''Cardinal Health''), a leading provider of products and services supporting the health care industry with a turnover of approximately $74 billion, for the active co-marketing of Phoqus' drug delivery and image systems in all major markets. Cardinal Health will also provide commercial scale GMP manufacturing to Phoqus' collaboration partners. This alliance is an important step in moving the Company towards commercial operation.
shamona
- 12 Oct 2005 13:25
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fwiw I don't think it would be a bad thing if it was dead as they have enough on there plate without it and the patents are as good as lost.
Any comments?
bhunt1910
- 12 Oct 2005 13:29
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Resistance at 13.75 with 1:6 @ 13.5 : 13.75 and 25k v 660k
greekman
- 12 Oct 2005 13:37
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Starpol is for short shelf life so there may well be a warning on the package re similar to many others, whats the problem! Most packaging carries several warning IE sell by date, use by date, microwaveable, piece lid etc. One of the reasons re Starpol's invention is due to it being biodegradable, so its not much use if it lasts forever is it. For long term packaging it will obviously not be used.
oblomov
- 12 Oct 2005 13:40
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Re: Pauls post:-
'paulmasterson1 - 12 Oct 2005 12:58 - 11246 of 11255
Stanelco believes its Starpol 2000 range of materials will be able to significantly undercut the price of polyester whilst providing the necessary gas barrier for MAP sealing. '
This is what the RNS actually says:-
'It is substantially less expensive than most other biodegradable packaging materials and not significantly greater than conventional plastics.'
You're at it again Paul. The RNS says its more expensive than plastic, so why do you say its less expensive?
bhunt1910
- 12 Oct 2005 13:43
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Have to agree with Oblo Paul - naughty, naughty - you must stop that - it does your credibility irreparable harm
baza
paulmasterson1
- 12 Oct 2005 13:55
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Baza Hi,
My cred is intact, e-mail me if your in any doubt about my claims, as can everyone if they so wish :)
Cheers,
PM
proptrade
- 12 Oct 2005 13:56
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but PM, your posts are factually misleading, or was that above an honest error?
paulmasterson1
- 12 Oct 2005 14:00
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How do you get cred ?
By having a thorough knowledge of what you are talking about, and referrring back to the facts ....
Reasons why todays announcement is of huge value ....
KBC Peel Hunt 06/09/2005
The prospects for Biotecs products are truly exciting as they offer
the only commercially viable biodegradable alternative to the
plastics being used in the packaging industry. More importantly it
will also generate very real profits. Furthermore the prospects for
the groups GREENSEAL technology remain strong. Following the
successful completion of the third trial, the 12 month exclusivity
agreement has started and we anticipate the roll-out programme
to start in earnest once the initial machines have been
commissioned and signed off.
Biotec is already forecast to be strongly profitable in the first
full year of ownership. The deal recently announced with the
groups jv partner SP Metal should ensure that the group is
profitable in the first year. Initial projections suggest the contract
will generate around 4m of EBIT and we anticipate that additional
deals will be announced over the coming months. In our numbers
we have attempted to be prudent and have assumed that around
15,000 tonnes of product will be sold in the first twelve months (the
SP Metal deal already covers 10,000 of this total).
Long-term opportunity for Biotec probably exceeds that of
GREENSEAL. The use of plastics in the food industry is clearly
extensive and is also an integral part. Until now there has been no
viable naturally biodegradable alternative to the likes of
polypropylene or APET. The introduction of Starpol 2000 (Biotecs
core product) changes this. Price is an issue, however the price
premium for Starpol 2000 is only 10-20% and as the product
becomes adopted so the price will fall. Additionally, both
Polypropylene and APET prices are linked to the oil price and with
the ever rising price of oil it is unlikely to be long before the pricing
of Starpol 2000 falls below that of the traditional plastics.
Quantifying the potential for Biotec is impossible due to the scale of
the market. However merely replacing all of SP Metals existing
internal requirements would result in a 14-fold increase volumes
from the existing 10,000 tonnes. This would imply a 56m EBIT for
Biotec on a pro-forma basis.
Stronger balance sheet. The recent fund raising and part sale of
Biotec has improved the groups cash position from the start of the
year with a current cash balance of around 7m.
Prospects for Biotec
The group is addressing the global food tray market. To give an indication
of the size of the market in North American Wal-Mart alone purchases
2.5bn food trays per year for red meat only. Each tray, on average, weighs
40g this equates to an annual usage of 100,000 tonnes of plastic (they
presently use polypropylene which is a notoriously poor gas barrier).
Wal-Mart in turn accounts for only 10% of the North American market so a
simple calculation suggests 1m tonnes of plastic is used in red meat
packaging in the North American market.
On a pro-forma basis as per the SP Metal deal this volume would equate
to 2bn of gross income and an EBIT contribution of 400m. Even
assuming that the EBIT margin falls by 75% to 5% then this would still
give 100m of EBIT.
bhunt1910
- 12 Oct 2005 14:03
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well someone just wiped out the resistance at 13.75
baza
paulmasterson1
- 12 Oct 2005 14:04
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nm
bhunt1910
- 12 Oct 2005 14:06
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now 2:1 @ 13.5:13.75 and 75k:100k
bhunt1910
- 12 Oct 2005 14:09
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Sorry Paul - cant agree with you on this one - Oblo posted the RNS saying that Starpol was more expensive than existing oil based products - but cheaper than other bio products. - its in black & white - sorry matey.
But tis of little relevance in the grand scheme of things - but it may be a pointer as to why the conversions are not happening in droves.
baza
Oilywag
- 12 Oct 2005 14:13
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PM1
Far be for me to break our truce, but I do think that if someone highlights an inaccuracy in someone else's statements that they should not be asked to continue the dialogue in clearing up the mistake via private e-mail.
If the statement is made on the board, the matter should be resolved on the board.
Please answer the question directly and openly on the board.
The oily one