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Sorry Paul - cant agree with you on this one - Oblo posted the RNS saying that Starpol was more expensive than existing oil based products - but cheaper than other bio products. - its in black & white - sorry matey.

But tis of little relevance in the grand scheme of things - but it may be a pointer as to why the conversions are not happening in droves.

baza

PM1

Far be for me to break our truce, but I do think that if someone highlights an inaccuracy in someone else's statements that they should not be asked to continue the dialogue in clearing up the mistake via private e-mail.

If the statement is made on the board, the matter should be resolved on the board.

Please answer the question directly and openly on the board.

The oily one

Whilst I agree re the wording of the RNS, therefore i would like clarification re PM1s post. I wish to point out that Starpol will not be influenced by any rise in oil prices, except of course any transport cost which will effect everything. So in the long term Starpol could be cheaper than conventional plastics. Presumably if Starpol is costlier than conventional plastics at present day prices, the difference must be so small that Asda consider to be insignificant and a better product.

I'm still chomping at the bit over ii's use of the word maximum. Perhaps a more subtle alteration of the RNS, but just as misleading in the opposite direction.
I know ii reads this thread, but he has still not replied to my original question over why he inserted this, or apologised for misleading everyone.
Alan

Paul, what you have posted has nothing to do with and is no answer to the question.

Each time you are challenged for making a misleading post we can be sure Your defence will be to flood the BB with irrelevant rubbish rather than own up, put the record straight and apologise.

I didn't ask you to extol the virtues of Starpol over plastics - I agree with you on that one (aside from the cost).

I asked why you mis-quoted from todays RNS by saying Starpol was less expensive than the plastic equivalent when the RNS says it is more expensive.

Your reply to proptrade is infantile.

You may find you attract more respect by behaving like an adult rather than a 10 year old sometimes and owning up to your errors - assuming it was an error.

.....and actually Oblo - in the post that Paul posted it said :

"Price is an issue, however the price premium for Starpol 2000 is only 10-20% and as the product becomes adopted so the price will fall."

I dont want to get into he said that, I said that - but Paul I think Oblos observation is accurate and correct.

Anyway - lets not get hung up on it - we all anticipate that the unit costs will fall as volume picks up and oil remains expensive.

Nobody is having a go at you Paul - I expect it was a genuine mistake as you were probably thinking more of the long term - when costs will fall , than what the article actually said which related to now.

baza

http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharecast/story.cgi?story_id=554043


http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharecast/story.cgi?story_id=554113

Baza,

you say 'Nobody is having a go at you Paul' - well I am!

How else can you desribe it? lol! I'm not agreeing with him, am I? Why the pussy-footing around where PM1's concerned?

He makes a misleading or untrue post, behaves like a spoilt child when challenged, wont back down and some of you end up apologising to him rather than the other way round.

Hi All,

Some of the savings will come for ASDA by using Greenseal on Starpol.

Also you all forgot .... mono plastic is cheaper than laminated, which equals cheaper film for the lids, EVO also said Stanelco could save a retailer 1c per tray, so where does that come from .... LOL !

The dry weight might be more expensive, but the finished product is cheaper :)

Cheers,
PM

well oblo - I am trying to keep this thread objective - and I always give people the benefit of the doubt. I can perhaps understand that Paul is so wrapped up in SEO and its future that he has calculated that the price will drop (as it says in the article) and he has just made a genuine mistake. If you dont know Paul by now - the fact that he has not come back again - means that he knows that he made a mistake - but he is just not the sort of person who is good at apologising. Accept it - I have.

It was good that you spotted the inaccuracy and pointed it out in a constructive way - but no need to labour the point. I think we all know Pauls strengths and weaknesses - and yours.

baza

Apologise for what, Starpol trays ARE cheaper ....

Todays statement also reports that in food rigid trays Stanelco now believes its
biodegradable trays, which use starch-based technology from Biotec, can seriously
undercut the price of polyster trays. This would be a huge breakthrough. Even six
months ago it was only hoping to produce trays costing twice as much as oilbased
plastics. The rise in oil prices has been a big help, but Stanelco at last
seems to be reaping the benefits of moving into volume production.

The company has bigger fish to fry. In the US we believe it is in talks with several
Fortune 500-sized companies about both Greenseal and biodegradables. There
can be no guarantees, but it seems realistic to expect major progress on both
fronts in the next few months. Considering that each tray-lidding machine handles
around 6m trays per year, a biodegradables saving of, say 1c per tray, could
generate handsome royalties. We have included nothing in our forecast for
materials royalties. Our model shows EPS of 2.3p and 4.8p in 2007 and 2008

EVO note 05/07/2005

LOL at that !

Cheers,
PM

Very diplomatic baza. ;o)

Not wishing to go on about this, but he was quoting directly from todays RNS - not difficult to get that right, is it? If he can get that so far wrong how credence can you put on anything he says, especially knowing that if he gets something wrong he's happy for the mistake to stand rather than put it right.

Anyway, nuff said, point made - subject dropped by me now.

Slighty steering away from the Oblo and PM1 arguement (and I also have to agree with Oblo's point, although maybe the RNS is at fault with misleading info!!!), what sort of premium will cig manufacturers will have to pay for the patent on Cig filters and will SEO receive royalties on the adoption of Starpol Cig butts?

Kong

teather going to recommand seo a buy

I spoke too soon.

Paul, you're now quoting from something dated 5th. July that was an opinion and not even from Stanelco.

Todays date is 12th. October.

The RNS (from Stanelco) you originally misquoted was up to date. You were quoting directly from it and you misquoted.

That is what you should apologise for.

I think you should seek help, I really do. I dont wish to personalise this but its difficult when faced with such odd behaviour.

He misquoted directly from an rns, that means a cut, paste then EDIT!!!!!

He then claims he has nothing to apologise for!!!!!

The lads got a brass neck' i'll give him that lol!!!!

It's easy to see why he has been banned from numerous other sites now.