Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

...Oh no it isn't!!!

By the way which one is you, Right or left?

An interesting article, and the in's and out's explained succinctly...

spectator.co.uk/2016/01/what-brexit-would-look-like-for-britain/

The Spectator? what that biased right wing rag.. Wouldn't touch it with a barge poll.

Yes it is intellectually above your station stan,
that's why I was intending for it to be read by the more sophisticated amongst us...

Grannys' boy.

The hypocrisy of some is that they like to think of themselves as sophisticated and evolved, but they are still also driven by primal urges like greed and power.

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the way both sides are carrying on, one would imagine that in the event of an "out" result, current trade deals be immediately suspended or even disbanded
that of course is rubbish

Plans for a United States of Europe have been drawn up by leading EU politicians , undermining David Camerons claims that Britain will not be sucked into a European superstate . a document signed last September in Rome by the speakers of the national parliaments in Germany , France , Italy and Luxemberg calls for the creation of a full blown " federal union of states ". The paper says that "concrete proposals " to deepen EU integration will be drawn up at a meeting in Luxemberg next month , raising the prospect of a new row about powers leaching to Brussels ahead of the referendom on June 23rd . Tim Shipman , The Times .

Sounds good to me.

Grown up international relationship!

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By the way, if some of you have to pop into A&E put the following note on your chests.

Cuts down unnecessary expenses.

Obama ,what a load of rubbish , we would go to the back of the line in deals , never heard such a load of crap .
I wish he had been asked if he would have free movement with South and Central America .

One step at a time!

I suppose any situation where you can rid the world of the word England is favorable to you Fred . I'm beginning to see what jimmy say's about you just hating the English isn't far off . Is there any German blood in there .

Check out Voteleave i have joined .Look at the count down figure of money we are giving to the corrupt EU

http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/

Talking of sickness and health..I hope all those who
went out for a curry at the weekend are feeling ok?
and if you're planning to go to one of these places take your own food...LOL!

mirror.co.uknews/uknews-/chef-prepared-curry-after-wiping-7745790/

And it should please stan as it's from his kind of rag...

Fred and Stan wouldn't mind they love a curry ,and the guy wiping his shit hand on their nam bread.

Yackity yak don't talk back you right wing losers.. getting down to your level for now as it's the only language you right wing loonies understand.

I'm not so sure some of these other EU members are over the moon , or maybe their people just hope they start playing up before our vote .

Austria have had enough !!! Merkel may have broken up Europe on her own .


Austria election: Far-right tops first round of presidential vote

Austria's far-right Freedom Party candidate has come top in the first round of presidential elections, preliminary results show.
Norbert Hofer has about 36% of the votes for the mostly ceremonial role - not enough to avoid a run-off in May.
He is likely to face Alexander Van der Bellen, an independent contender backed by the Greens, who is polling 20%.
For the first time since World War Two, the candidates from Austria's two main parties did not make it to the run-off.
Rudolf Hundstorfer from the Social Democrats and the centre-right People's Party Andreas Kohl are each thought to have taken about 11% of the vote.
Both parties have governed Austria for decades - either alone or in coalition.
This is a big shake-up in Austrian politics, the BBC's Bethany Bell in Vienna reports, as the country has had a president from the centre-left or centre-right since 1945.
The clear victory of the far-right candidate reflects widespread discontent with the status quo, as well as concerns about immigration and the economy, our correspondent says.
Support for the Social Democrats and the People's Party has been falling in recent years.
In the last general elections in 2013, the two parties won just enough votes to govern in a "grand coalition"

resurgence of strong nationalist parties are always of concern
i think we have seen this in austria within the last 10 years and hungarian gov't is also disturbingly to the right

not without reason, there are ever-growing concerns about the influx of uncontrolled migrants
there is little doubt that this alone poses a threat to european stability

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fred of course will continue to play his silly little games, for he fancies himself as a bit of a chess player and this being a variation