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RTD - Why? (RTD)     

Nitefly - 15 Sep 2003 10:55

Why are we again at 10.5p bid?

It doesn't add up...

Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop

Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!

Why sell now at a loss?

Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!

Best of luck all.

Douggie - 10 May 2004 09:16 - 1144 of 2406

I got that horible sinking feeling again :~{{...

it does look like that forcast 25p/30p not going to happen long time yet, anyone able to tell me this wrong?

Fred1new - 10 May 2004 12:21 - 1145 of 2406

I don't understand the figures. the total count of buys appears to be more than sells on the Watchlist and trades but the the sums of buys and sells don't reflect this. Why???

dandu71 - 10 May 2004 12:35 - 1146 of 2406

i have about 40 companies on my watchlist and so far today everything is down, i have no blue on my screen at all, i`m sure this downtrend for RTD is just a reflection on the market in general.

slmchow - 10 May 2004 15:03 - 1147 of 2406


From Fundamentalist post 1128 , Am I right to think that the strengtening of the US dollar will be good for RTD. So the rise of US interst rates will not be a disadvantage after all....

Fundamentalist - 10 May 2004 15:44 - 1148 of 2406

RTD have earnings in US and more importantly currently in Australia. Hence, the higher the relevant $/ rate is bad for RTD.

ie $10m revenue at 1.8$ to = 5.6m
$10m revenue at 1.7$ to = 5.9m

Hence the lower the rate the better for RTD.

Also worth bearing in mind is the price of oil. A large part of RTDs business is the fuel cards in australia. The higher oil prices go, petrol prices go up, the spend on fuel cards go up and RTDs revenue from them go up. Hence when the interims are announced, I would expect very strong results from the fuel card business.

these are now trading on a future PE (on basic EPS) of 12. Market conditions are bad, all the indices are down with the tech ones hardest hit. IMHO this is now way to low priced, but then what do I know. I am topping up with more for the long term. Good luck all holders!!!!!

overgrowth - 10 May 2004 20:58 - 1149 of 2406

Douggie,

A severe hammering for all shares today. It also appears that a bunch of traders have been kicking RTD around like a football again.

As soon as normal service is resumed to the markets in general (could be tomorrow though more likely Wednesday), don't be surprised if there are some large upswings in RTD's price.

It's a roller coaster ride.

OG

Douggie - 11 May 2004 17:39 - 1150 of 2406

Good call overgrowth....feel bit better now :o}}}} xfinger can hold and grow, not overly optimistic! longing to be proved wrong!!!!!!!!!!!! D.

Douggie - 12 May 2004 09:27 - 1151 of 2406

Certainly rollercoaster back down 0.75p no apparent reason ?????????? ;~[[

robstuff - 12 May 2004 15:47 - 1152 of 2406

A big fall today on thin trading, a real bargain now on conservative prospective p/e of 11. A tech stock with so much potential can easily treble in value over the next 6mths so forget short term blips and fill ya boots, this surely cannot go lower now.

Fred1new - 12 May 2004 16:59 - 1153 of 2406

Send Dougie back on holidays please!

Douggie - 12 May 2004 17:25 - 1154 of 2406

I;ll go I'll GO wont cost you much well used to low cost hols. can't have any other spare cash tied up here!! :~[[[

Mms seem very eager to lower price on very little sell off, always easy to blame them, just hope it's not that these shares not worth as much as forcast

I'm with robstuff, but others dont seem so convinced

Fundamentalist - 12 May 2004 17:34 - 1155 of 2406

Still convinced, still holding. Nothing in the business has changed, if anything with current oil prices the business has probably got stronger short term. Current year forecast, which to me appear conservative, see the company trading on a forward PE of 11.3 based on basic earnings per share and aprrox 7 on adjusted.

Look at this share in the context of the market and yes it is down heavily recently but so are a lot of other shares in similar sectors - NSB for one. The Nasdaq has been weak hence the Techmark has been weak. As a share that had grown quickly RTD was more vulnerable than some to the falls we have seen.

But, as I said above, fundamentally nothing has changed, this is a profitable, growth tech company trading on a forward PE of less than 12. Interims due out early July I believe where we will get confirmation of strong current trading IMHO.

In this for the long term and convinced as ever by the strength of the company - the share price will reflect this in the long term IMHO.

overgrowth - 12 May 2004 22:17 - 1156 of 2406

It looks suspiciously as though someone's selling RTD via T trades in 100K chunks - this is causing the accentuated dips, and smaller weak holders predictably bail out (at precisely the wrong time) helping the trader make more of a killing.

Then, it looks as though when the price hits a low, they buy back the chunks again in T trades and wait for the inevitable rise. And so the cycle continues....

There is consistent buying support at 16p, and given an improvement in general tech. stock market confidence we'll see RTD back up to around the 20p level very quickly.

The volatility can be unnerving, though the fact that RTD is being traded in this way shows that there is confidence that buyers will always return at the right price.


Fred1new - 13 May 2004 13:34 - 1157 of 2406

I think I have posted this soemwhere else. But what exactly is a T Trade. Who is protected. Can any one do this.

The Other Kevin - 13 May 2004 15:19 - 1158 of 2406

T trades are trades with extended settlements over and above the normal T+3, giving the trader an opportunity to close a position without parting with any money. The broker will charge a premium for this service.


Fred1new - 13 May 2004 16:39 - 1159 of 2406

Thank you.

robstuff - 14 May 2004 09:59 - 1160 of 2406

T trades I think are protected transactions which could be Institutional trading, not sure about the T+3 as i bought some on T+10 and it was shown as an ordinary buy. These now look stupendously cheap compared with other tech stocks - at p/e 12 and 1.5x sales. I do think this is excellent opportunity and have bought more as they should do well on interims very soon.

IanT(MoneyAM) - 14 May 2004 10:04 - 1161 of 2406

rob,

there is a slight difference here when a T is posted next to a trade as it goes througf that is the trade type and in this case a protected transaction.

When you refer to T+ trades, this is not an abbreviated trade type this is the time before settlement.

For example if you bought some shares on T + 10 (trade + 10) this means that you would not have to pay for those shares for 10 days after the transaction.

Regards

Ian

Douggie - 14 May 2004 10:08 - 1162 of 2406

mornin all re. today I'm sayin nowt :o}}}}}

Douggie - 17 May 2004 08:57 - 1163 of 2406

..............:o(((((((((((((((
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