Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Vaguely.

Lol

Lol - time for a revolution me thinks - they don't listen to us at all

just seen JRM on tv
i wouldn't vote for him to be party leader as entirely the wrong image for today, but he is very urbane, amusing and speaks well

Comes across as a real 1900 Pratt...bit like some outsiders on here, no names of course -):

And has an investment fund in Ireland.

I hope you and Joe have written to Grieve and told him what you think of him. I wrote to mine, hers truly, and got a reply from a woman called Maya. I wonder if she is part of hers truly's extended family.

Anyone for a sweepstake on tonight's vote ?

I'll start , lose by 148.

Stan comes across as a 2019 prat. JRM is too intelligent and uses big words that Stan can't understand. He likes to do his sums with Diane Abbott and when he really wants to make his point he underlines it. Oohh. Next it will be all caps.

Abbott says the government will lose by 2 trillion.

I see a dog has found a bone.

Just as a reminder:

Motions of no confidence in the United Kingdom

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the United Kingdom, confidence motions are a means of testing the support of the government (executive) in a legislative body, and for the legislature to remove the government from office. A confidence motion may take the form of either a vote of confidence, usually put forward by the government, or a vote of no confidence (or censure motion[1]), usually proposed by the opposition. When such a motion is put to a vote in the legislature, if a vote of confidence is defeated, or a vote of no confidence is passed, then the incumbent government must resign, or call a general election.

It is a fundamental principle of the British constitution that the government must retain the confidence of the legislature, as it is not possible for a government to operate effectively without the support of the majority of the people's representatives.[2] At the national level, this means that the UK government (the cabinet) must retain the confidence of a majority in the House of Commons.

It is possible for a vote of no confidence to succeed where there is a minority government or a small majority, or where there are internal party splits. Where there is a minority government, the government may seek agreements or pacts with minor parties in order to remain in office.

Despite their importance to the British constitution, for a long time the rules surrounding motions of no confidence were dictated solely by convention. However, since the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, a vote of no confidence must be passed in a specific form in order to create the possibility of an early general election. Under the Act, if a motion of no confidence in the government is passed in express terms, the house must then adopt a vote of confidence within 14 days, or a general election is held.


Perhaps, when the Neo-cons realise that they are being conned they may put repeated motions to force the abdication of the their glorious leader.



Mind there is no limit to the self-serving hypocrisy of the present tory government.

following to cheer up fred .....

Rossiya – svyashchennaya nasha derzhava,
Rossiya – lyubimaya nasha strana.
Moguchaya volya, velikaya slava –
Tvoio dostoyanye na vse vremena!
Slav'sya, Otechestvo nashe svobodnoye,
Bratskih narodov soyuz vekovoi,
Predkami dannaya mudrost' narodnaya!
Slav'sya, strana! My gordimsya toboi!
Ot yuzhnyh morei do polyarnogo kraya
Raskinulis' nashi lesa i polya.
Odna ty na svete! Odna ty takaya –
Khranimaya Bogom rodnaya zemlya!
Shirokii prostor dlya mechty i dlya zhizni.
Gryadushchiye nam otkryvayut goda.
Nam silu daiot nasha vernost' Otchizne.
Tak bylo, tak yest' i tak budet vsegda!

Out of interest, whatever happened to Doc Proc / Exec Line? Fred (I think from memory?) said something about him getting banned, so what's that all about please?

I enjoyed reading his posts.

EL is certainly not banned .... perhaps he's just got fed up with this thread

So far we have

Dil 148

Diane Abbott 2 trillion

and

Stan (doesn't understand the question)

Oh, OK Cyners, thanks. Hadn't seen him around for a while and, like I say, somebody asked if he could be re-instated a few weeks back.

perhaps you're right hils, as i can't find him by using search either

Manuel,

It is a glorious anthem and singing.

Emotional singing of their own country! (or hopes)

Can remember it being sung on a Friday night in some of the pubs I frequented as a student.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

Can remember it being sung with smiles on the faces of the singers.

-==-=

CNG,


Exec, e-mailed me to say he had been banned. (He was wondering why.)

I couldn't see why, although we differed I never saw him as particularly offensive, but my guess was that some of his posts were taken out of context and possibly too critical of MM (itself).

A pity, because many of his posts were interesting and informative.