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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 15 Jan 2019 09:59 - 11533 of 12628

So far we have

Dil 148

Diane Abbott 2 trillion

and

Stan (doesn't understand the question)

hilary - 15 Jan 2019 10:03 - 11534 of 12628

Oh, OK Cyners, thanks. Hadn't seen him around for a while and, like I say, somebody asked if he could be re-instated a few weeks back.

cynic - 15 Jan 2019 10:11 - 11535 of 12628

perhaps you're right hils, as i can't find him by using search either

Fred1new - 15 Jan 2019 10:31 - 11536 of 12628

Manuel,

It is a glorious anthem and singing.

Emotional singing of their own country! (or hopes)

Can remember it being sung on a Friday night in some of the pubs I frequented as a student.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

Can remember it being sung with smiles on the faces of the singers.

-==-=

CNG,


Exec, e-mailed me to say he had been banned. (He was wondering why.)

I couldn't see why, although we differed I never saw him as particularly offensive, but my guess was that some of his posts were taken out of context and possibly too critical of MM (itself).

A pity, because many of his posts were interesting and informative.

Fred1new - 15 Jan 2019 10:39 - 11537 of 12628

Manuel,

PS.

Actually heard the Red Army singing this anthem in the Albert Hall in 1960s.

My wife and I had been given 2 tickets as "wedding gifts" and we had hitch-hiked from Cardiff to London to attend their concert.
-===

My father-in-law was staunchly anti-communist but admire much of Russian Culture.

hilary - 15 Jan 2019 10:40 - 11538 of 12628

Thanks for that, Fred.

That's a pity. Can't he just re-register with a different moniker? That's what plenty of others do.

Best regards,

Kylie Minogue

:o)

cynic - 15 Jan 2019 10:41 - 11539 of 12628

i told you it would cheer you up :-)

Fred1new - 15 Jan 2019 10:42 - 11540 of 12628

To put in your pipe.

I think the longer T.May leave another election be greater will be the majority the labour party will have.

I will be the biggest chance labour will have to change the tax policies and economy of the UK.

They will sweep you away.


8-)

Dil - 15 Jan 2019 11:58 - 11541 of 12628

I'd still like to know why

Atomic Kitten
Atomik Kitten
Atomick Kitten and
Nuclear Pussy

were all banned.

Maybe Bullie can remember :-)

Dil - 15 Jan 2019 12:07 - 11542 of 12628

Apparently it was ADVFN he banned them from.

He didn't like their music :-)

hilary - 15 Jan 2019 12:08 - 11543 of 12628

To be fair, he had a point.

:o)

hilary - 15 Jan 2019 12:08 - 11544 of 12628

200 for me please, Dilbert.

Dil - 15 Jan 2019 12:11 - 11545 of 12628

Bit optimistic for you isn't Hils ?

And if it's ok with you I'm off to the pub with a couple of mates for lunch at 1 and bit of sheep shagging after :-)

Dil - 15 Jan 2019 12:13 - 11546 of 12628

Dil 148

Diane Abbott 2 trillion

Hils 200

Stan (ringing a friend for help with the question)

hilary - 15 Jan 2019 12:14 - 11547 of 12628

Don't forget to take some photos.

:o)

Fred1new - 15 Jan 2019 13:11 - 11548 of 12628

Who is this Hilary impersonating a CNG?

iturama - 15 Jan 2019 14:01 - 11549 of 12628

Me 218 Dil. Stan needs more information and will come up with a number tomorrow.

Fred1new - 15 Jan 2019 14:21 - 11550 of 12628

Whatever the figure is, it won't say much for the bunch of incompetents in government.

iturama - 15 Jan 2019 18:04 - 11551 of 12628

It was on the BBC so must be true.

There's a big problem facing members of Parliament who want to avoid a no-deal Brexit. They can't just show there is a majority in the House of Commons against no deal - they need to prove there is a majority in favour of an alternative outcome.
That's because leaving the EU - with or without a deal - is currently the default.
If the agreement the prime minister has negotiated with the EU fails to pass the House of Commons, the UK will leave with no deal at all unless something changes, because leaving the EU is written into UK law.
The EU Withdrawal Act sets 29 March as the date of departure.
The wording of the act does allow a minister to change the definition of "exit day" relatively quickly using a statutory instrument - a piece of secondary legislation - rather than an entirely new act of Parliament that would need to be debated. A minister would have to propose the change and MPs would have to approve it.
Article 50
But there is a second and more significant reason why no deal would become the default position: that's what EU law says.
Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is the formal route for any country leaving the EU and it allows for a two-year process of negotiation. At the end of that period "the treaties shall cease to apply to the state in question" unless Article 50 is extended or revoked.
The most obvious way therefore to stop a no-deal Brexit, or any form of Brexit, is to revoke Article 50.


The question is would Teresa May dare after all that Brexit means Brexit palaver?

Claret Dragon - 15 Jan 2019 18:19 - 11552 of 12628

Off for a meaningful pint down the Nuclear before the withdrawal agreement at the close.
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