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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

VICTIM - 25 Apr 2016 10:05 - 1168 of 12628

Explain your idea of a little Englander please , as i'm confused Freda .

Fred1new - 25 Apr 2016 10:06 - 1169 of 12628

JB and Vicky,

Hurry up and move to Austria.

It may represent true happiness for you!



jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 10:06 - 1170 of 12628

cynic , i will print where the term little Englander comes from but i am giving Fred the chance to tell me first .

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 10:07 - 1171 of 12628

There you go Fred , now how silly and ignorant do you feel...
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Why Little Englanders Are Good Eggs (And Those Who Sneer At Them Are Patronising, Racist Colonialists)


Vernon Coleman


Those who want England to leave Hitler’s Bastard Lovechild (aka The European Union aka Clegg’s Pension Fund) are frequently demonised by fascist EU lovers.

The favourite insult among EU lovers is to describe all eurosceptics as `Little Englanders’. I suspect that the EU lovers are showing their ignorance. Those who use this term in a pejorative fashion clearly don't understand its origin or meaning. (But then the EU aficionados are not renowned for their understanding of history, their sense of culture or their intelligence.) The fact is that the term Little Englander dates from the Boer War and refers to people who were, at the time, opposed to the English Empire and who were anti-Imperialist. The Little Englanders wanted the English to stop taking over the world. Such folk were, at the time, regarded as unpatriotic.

Today, ignorant pro-EU fascists use the term as one of abuse. And so it seems safe to assume that all those who are not Little Englanders must, by definition, be determined that England should take over the world, colonising distant parts of the world, painting maps pink and generally proving themselves to be latter day racists.

MaxK - 25 Apr 2016 10:11 - 1172 of 12628

Good find jimmy, that will give Fred pause for thought...or perhaps not.

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 10:12 - 1173 of 12628

He won't answer and admit he's wrong .

VICTIM - 25 Apr 2016 10:13 - 1174 of 12628

Nice one jimmy .

Fred1new - 25 Apr 2016 10:21 - 1175 of 12628


Common usage.

"Little Englander" is an epithet applied in criticisms of British nationalists, English nationalists, or English people who are regarded as xenophobic and/or overly nationalistic and are often accused of being "ignorant" and "boorish". It is sometimes applied to opponents of globalism, multilateralism and internationalism, such as those who are against membership in the European Union.


I would consider many are full of "hatred" of others who are not of their herd.


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England.

The area now called England was first inhabited by modern humans during the Upper Palaeolithic period, but takes its name from the Angles, one of the Germanic tribes who settled during the 5th and 6th centuries.

-=-=

Your origins seems confuse and many think of England as a bastard nation.

cynic - 25 Apr 2016 10:26 - 1176 of 12628

fred thinks his response is something like BKN6

VICTIM - 25 Apr 2016 10:27 - 1177 of 12628

I suppose we will be seeing in the future Little Austrians , Little Hungarians , Little Swedes , Little Spaniards etc . Possibly .

Stan - 25 Apr 2016 10:33 - 1178 of 12628

Austria isn't far enough away for them Fred.. I suggest they all contact JB and get on the boat with him to gun nutter land.

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 10:45 - 1179 of 12628

Bang on VIC ..

Fred take the shame ,you know you have it badly wrong , still don't worry have another drink..
Stan get back up Fred's skirt it's cold today.

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 10:46 - 1180 of 12628

The real meaning Fred . just one more time .


Why Little Englanders Are Good Eggs (And Those Who Sneer At Them Are Patronising, Racist Colonialists)


Vernon Coleman


Those who want England to leave Hitler’s Bastard Lovechild (aka The European Union aka Clegg’s Pension Fund) are frequently demonised by fascist EU lovers.

The favourite insult among EU lovers is to describe all eurosceptics as `Little Englanders’. I suspect that the EU lovers are showing their ignorance. Those who use this term in a pejorative fashion clearly don't understand its origin or meaning. (But then the EU aficionados are not renowned for their understanding of history, their sense of culture or their intelligence.) The fact is that the term Little Englander dates from the Boer War and refers to people who were, at the time, opposed to the English Empire and who were anti-Imperialist. The Little Englanders wanted the English to stop taking over the world. Such folk were, at the time, regarded as unpatriotic.

Today, ignorant pro-EU fascists use the term as one of abuse. And so it seems safe to assume that all those who are not Little Englanders must, by definition, be determined that England should take over the world, colonising distant parts of the world, painting maps pink and generally proving themselves to be latter day racists.

grannyboy - 25 Apr 2016 10:50 - 1181 of 12628

Don't you just love those like the stans and freds of this world...

If they don't like what you say and find you too intelligent
for their liking, they'd rather you FO and go and live somewhere
else so that the uneducated immigrants from the third world can
come to the UK, as they believe that they can brainwash them
into their way of thinking and gullability in believing what the liberal lefties tell them...

Fred1new - 25 Apr 2016 10:55 - 1182 of 12628

Dumbo.

You must have had yours difficulties in reading or understanding the post.

Your dummy is still in the pram.

By the way, have a listen to Obama on Sky News.

-=-=-=-=-=-=

Common usage.

"Little Englander" is an epithet applied in criticisms of British nationalists, English nationalists, or English people who are regarded as xenophobic and/or overly nationalistic and are often accused of being "ignorant" and "boorish". It is sometimes applied to opponents of globalism, multilateralism and internationalism, such as those who are against membership in the European Union.


I would consider many are full of "hatred" of others who are not of their herd.


-=-=-=-=-=

England.

The area now called England was first inhabited by modern humans during the Upper Palaeolithic period, but takes its name from the Angles, one of the Germanic tribes who settled during the 5th and 6th centuries.

-=-=


Your origins seems confuse and many think of England as a bastard nation.

cynic - 25 Apr 2016 11:12 - 1183 of 12628

.

cynic - 25 Apr 2016 11:12 - 1184 of 12628

which "many"?
your neighbours in your ivory tower?

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 11:12 - 1185 of 12628

Fred take the shame with your new buddy....

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 11:14 - 1186 of 12628

Even your best buddies laughing at you.

cynic - 25 Apr 2016 11:18 - 1187 of 12628

talking of corbyn, i was astounded to read the attack on sadiq khan by alan sugar
i confess i hadn't realised quite how far left sadiq khan was
prob is that zac goldsmith has been almost unseen
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