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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Fred1new - 29 Jun 2009 23:50 - 1186 of 6906

Isaacs, I can't recall you condemning Israeli action in Gaza, even though World opinion has done.

I have condemned "barbarity" carried out by whichever side of the conflict carries them out.

I have seen enough results of violence and carnage to have no need to indulge in watching more than I need to. If you wish to, so be it.

You certainly don't have to accept my opinions, but suggest you review the policy change being introduced by America and the statements recently made by Obama and Clinton about the Israeli actions in Gaza. I suppose you information and opinion is worth more than theirs. For you it may be, but I doubt that to be universally so.

I have been critical of Arab actions in the past and certainly dont like Islamic fundamentalism or dictatorships, preferring in general democracies with all the associated problems and weaknesses.

If you are suggesting I am critical of recent Israeli governments, you are correct and I think I am supported by the majority of World opinion. The news coverage also supports this positioning and opinion.

I am sorry that you are in the minority and that others with your opinions or similar may be blocking the peaceful, equitable and fair resolution of the Middle East problems.

I would suggest you take your head out of the sand and face up to the changes which are occurring.

Isaacs - 30 Jun 2009 11:46 - 1187 of 6906

If you have the time today Fred please go back over the thread and pull out any comments you've made condemning Hamas and Palestinian terrorist actions. You might even start by watching that video you overlooked.

What is wrong with being in a minority anyway? Sometimes the minority is right. Gordon Brown is in a minority (rapidly approaching a minority of one, well two if you include yourself) but you still think he is right.

Fred1new - 30 Jun 2009 13:30 - 1188 of 6906

Isaacs, I will leave the pleasure of reviewing this thread to you.

Again opinion of Brown gained from reports from abroad are not supportive of your opinion. Mind it is the propaganda that of some of the Tory rabble promote and believe. Read more widely while I await to see what occurs in the economy over the next 12mths. Also wait to see what policies the present labour government introduce.

Being in the minority, is fine as long as it doesn't allow you to dismiss reality. Sometimes, to me, you seem to, all to often.

Have a nice day.

hilary - 30 Jun 2009 14:29 - 1189 of 6906

Any thoughts that the UK economy has turned or is about to turn for the good should be quickly dispelled. The worst of it is still to come.

I predict there will be blood on the streets of the UK before things get better. If he isn't already, Gordon Brown is about to be the most hated man in Britain.

Isaacs - 30 Jun 2009 14:40 - 1190 of 6906

LOL reports from abroad. What about reports from here of the people who should have elected him and his bunch of cronies and who have to live with the results of his cock-ups every day? I can't believe you still think he is popular. Talk about denying reality.

Isaacs - 30 Jun 2009 14:41 - 1191 of 6906

I think he already is Hilary. Fred would give him a close run though if he was a politician.

Fred1new - 30 Jun 2009 16:50 - 1192 of 6906

Hiliary,

I thought you had packed your bags and were on your way to the ski escape.

Anyway, whose blood will be running when the mobs vent their frustration? ( I wonder if they will be singing;


Aux armes, citoyens,
Formez vos bataillons,
marchons !
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons !

Will it be the small time adventurers, the failed bankrupt bankers, or the businessmen, who will under the failing economic policies of Wisteria, (or lack of them) fall back on state aid. (Public taxation will go up.)

Rampant devaluation is on the screens.

This, when followed by inflation, is often considered to be a method of redistribution of wealth.

Small timers (sorry emigrants) with a bit of devaluing cash rushing to the borders of countries, which wont want them, hoping that they may be let in.

The outlook is gloriously horrendous. I glad my wife has bought for me, a small plot of land locally.

You never know it may happen.

Jesus, I have just look out of the window. How did Sputty and Mighty Mouse get there?

rawdm999 - 30 Jun 2009 23:02 - 1193 of 6906

Fred, I do believe you have well and truly lost the plot (maybe thats why your wife bought you a new one).

Haystack - 30 Jun 2009 23:59 - 1194 of 6906

How small was the plot. Was it a plot in a cemetary?

MightyMicro - 01 Jul 2009 02:47 - 1195 of 6906

I don't give a damn. I'm at home cleaning my guns and checking my ammunition ( about 1200 rounds). Screw the mob. I'm ready.

MrCharts - 01 Jul 2009 09:22 - 1196 of 6906

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MrCharts - 01 Jul 2009 09:23 - 1197 of 6906



Someone, somewhere, loved their little Fred.

MrCharts - 01 Jul 2009 09:26 - 1198 of 6906

Don't take the piccie personally, Fred.
I wish you long life in a good caring environment.

Fred1new - 01 Jul 2009 09:34 - 1199 of 6906

Haystack, you are getting brighter by the day. But that is what I was inferring. (Perhaps even interring.) 8-)

rawdm999 - 01 Jul 2009 11:10 - 1200 of 6906

Its a very small plot Haystack. About the size of a bucket which, once his head is in it will be filled with sand. Come to think of it.....nothing much will change.

All the best fred, I wish you well even if you do have a tendency to rub people up the wrong way. Still sure you do it on purpose:)

Haystack - 01 Jul 2009 11:24 - 1201 of 6906

Is that 'do it on purpose' as in people with Tourette syndrome do it on purpose?

Fred1new - 01 Jul 2009 11:56 - 1202 of 6906

Raw. Good choice of pseudonym. You certainly are. I would guess pretty unpleasant as well.
Hazy, As charming and infantile as ever.

I can see why you support the Nasty Party. But a man of your experience, supposed knowledge should be able to do better.

I see Osborne has put his foot in it again. Was it projection of his own machinations or that of the party", which is getting him into trouble.

I wonder why Osborne is back on the scene, is it because Clarke is seen a liability once again?

PS. Just sold my plot of land, at a profit, to an Englishman. His need seemed greater than mine.



Back to Gaza. You can see why the Arabs hate the Israelis. They certainly have some justifications.


http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=14246235&ch=4226714&src=news







rawdm999 - 01 Jul 2009 12:14 - 1203 of 6906

Not an unpleasant bone in my body.... i will normally go out of my way to help others (even you) and have on some occassions gone well beyond the call of duty and been well and truly shafted. Even then, I pick myself up, dust myself down and forge ahead, leaving the obnoxious in my tracks. Life is way too short and I want to make the most of it. I can do that without being unpleasant thanks.

Fred1new - 01 Jul 2009 13:59 - 1204 of 6906

Check meaning of unpleasant.

Haystack - 01 Jul 2009 14:06 - 1205 of 6906

It seems to be a phrase in common usage. It matters not what the actual meaning of unpleasant is unless your are a pedant. Here are a few examples for a google search

He is one of those people you can genuinely believe does not have an unpleasant bone in his body.

That's the way I think of Sir Bobby, daft as a brush but a great bloke with not an unpleasant bone in his body. I wish him well

Everyone loves her, she doesn't have an unpleasant bone in her body
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