for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

charts looks set for a large fall - two large sells at the end as well -

Can't believe I'm about to type this.
May I take this opportunity to thank ii for his last posting of fact (the chart) and opinion (a big fall) and nothing more. Whether postive or negative, it is conctructive, not spun out of proportion or abusive, or deliberately misleading. This thread has suffered enough from these problems.
Alan

I debated for a while whether to post this as I did not wish to start the patent argument going again, but I found it very interesting. I will not enter into a discussion re the pros and cons as I have no views either way, but just read the full article. My only comment is ( note the damages awarded ) and remember this was awarded by a USA court who award in most cases far higher damages than British courts. For those who will find no or little similarity with the BIO/SEO dispute, fair enough, but to me there is a slight parallel.

Small, Wisconsin-Based Packaging Company Wins $3.7 Million Verdict From Industry Giant
Federal jury says Smurfit-Stone breached contract, improperly used proprietary information regarding new packaging technology and products

http://sev.prnewswire.com/paper-forest-products-containers/20051018/CLTU53118102005-1.html

greekman

Completely different cases i'm afraid, the one you highlighted was not in the same multi million pound catagory that the one here represents; remember Stanelco formed a whole new business unit called Ingel on the back of the stolen patent, remember too that Cardinal payed hundreds of thousands for a small stake in Ingel.

Costs alone will be worth the amount of damages outlined above.

Once again, we have had to take action on this thread to remove a poster for abusive postings against other users.

Let me re-iterate that open discussion is fine - personal abuse will not be tolerated.

Ian

That'll be Mr Mad/ Sequestor gone, then.

Hope the second of my predictions also comes true - sure it wil! lol

Isn't this funny watching the traders selling now. It's like going to the cinema and leaving before the film starts!! and paying for the privilage to! I guess that's why brokers love traders.

I find it more fascinating by the number expecting news this morning only to then sell. Then again they can't afford not to be in "just in case"...

B

It may be funny to you but others call it making money, I sold out at 18p yesterday; bet you'd take that price right now!

It's a shame that seq ,or Mr Mad has to be so abusive, because where the stock market is concerned he is quite clever, he usually calls it right.

Greekman,

As sham says, different case.

The point to bear in mind is that any damages awarded in the UK in relation to Patent infringement will not be punative. That is, the damages will relate directly to loss of income to the aggrieved party. In other words, a sum of money the defendant obtained through infringement of the Patent and which therefore the claiment lost.

Thats why the award is likely to be negligable in this case - SEO have not profitted from any ALLEDGED infringement (there were no sales to my knowledge). The case is all about the future - to establishlish future rights to use, not about monetary loss or gain. IMO.

So the Cardinal stake was not profit!!!!!!?

If I steal your taxi but don't use it for five years you'll have lost lots of business and revenues, now think Wyeth who wouldn't sign up for Swallo without rf sealing!

Re my post of 11862.

This post has been taken by some on a competitors thread as intending to raise the patent dispute again which was not my intention. The competitors thread has a seperate discusion page for the said dispute. In the absence of such a page here I will remove said post if it is lickely to cause problems. I have always said it is up to the courts to decide. The subect is far more imotive than I thought. As said if it is going to cause the thread to move away from current issues such as greenseal/starpol ect it will be removed.

Greekman,

dont worry about whats happening on another thread. Yours was a relevant post, here so wheres the problem.

Just for a bit of balance, look at the damages awarded here - and Sony were involved:-


http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/emergingtech/0,39020357,2103206,00.htm

Not a lot, was it?

morning all. seq gone .... again!! greekman, no harm in leaving your post, but there really isn't any point in discussing the cc or damages because nobody knows for definate how much any damages are going to be.
i am really starting to get interested in this chart business. i know there are many knockers out there, but, chartists do seem make a lot of correct calls. can anybody recommend any good charting starter books?

Morning All - managed to stay in for now - wife trying to drag me out

Anticipated drop foloowing no news - bit of a shame - it would not surprise me if it does not slowly creep back towards 2pm - then drop again on no news.

I will not be dealing - too much long term potential - and I always time it wrong anyway - well nearly always.

Baza

happy birthday to baza.
here's some cake for you.

Nice one greekman, it is important I think that we stick to facts from company RNS etc otherwise this turns into a speculators thread, and after all they should all be over in the Traders thread not the Investors thread.

Biscuit

Thanks Oblomov,

Not worried but it had the effect of turning the other thread back to the patent dispute and away from the present, relevent issues such as greenseal and starpol, that was my reason for its removal. As all of us waiting for good news.