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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

iturama - 24 Jan 2019 15:00 - 11897 of 12628

Now it's the French and all they have got is mighty Micron.

Stan - 24 Jan 2019 15:02 - 11898 of 12628

Nonsense H/S that was just the right wing propaganda that the Tory press and sympathisers were spewing out.

It's a fact the 70s was the the most prosperous in just about every indicator that mattered to the average worker.

2517GEORGE - 24 Jan 2019 15:05 - 11899 of 12628

When you say prosperous do you mean like British Leyland Stan?

Stan - 24 Jan 2019 15:16 - 11900 of 12628

Nonsense H/S that was just the right wing propaganda that the Tory press and sympathisers were spewing out.

It's a fact the 70s was the the most prosperous in just about every indicator that mattered to the average worker.

Read again slowly and that will explain.

KidA - 24 Jan 2019 15:19 - 11901 of 12628

TUC General Secretary, Frances O'Grady, has announced that its affiliates will no longer use strike action as a negotiation tool; all out brothers/sisters/whatever is being taken off the table.

Dil - 24 Jan 2019 15:20 - 11902 of 12628

Don't you mean preposterous Stan ?

Ah the winter of discontent ... those were the days.

iturama - 24 Jan 2019 15:25 - 11903 of 12628

Stan is waiting for a uniformed response.

Stan - 24 Jan 2019 15:25 - 11904 of 12628

George and Dill both Express, Mail and Murdoch sponges no doubt.

2517GEORGE - 24 Jan 2019 15:40 - 11905 of 12628

Very good iturama, don't take any of those Stan and as far as I'm aware Dill is a herb.

Stan - 24 Jan 2019 15:47 - 11906 of 12628

No intelligent response as usual.

2517GEORGE - 24 Jan 2019 15:49 - 11907 of 12628

You can't help that, it was the schooling you received.

Dil - 24 Jan 2019 16:07 - 11908 of 12628

Stan , you didn't have to read about it in the press it was on tele too and in some places you could actually look out of the window and see the mounds of bin bags piling up on the street.

Callaghans legacy , what a guy.

2517GEORGE - 24 Jan 2019 16:10 - 11909 of 12628

British Leyland workers went on strike when management wanted to take 5 minutes off their courtesy tea-break.

Stan - 24 Jan 2019 16:27 - 11910 of 12628

Ha ha so out of the 10 years of that decade you site only two things to bleat on about...please try harder.

The fact remains that sticks in your gullets is that the 70,s was the most prosperous for the average working person.

Fred1new - 24 Jan 2019 16:30 - 11911 of 12628

Maggie had an idea and ran with it.
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Destroying unnecessarily a large amount of heavy industry and social communities.

The "revolution" could have been carried out more respectfully with regards to social cohesion.

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In the view of many, she was also responsible for the Belgrano murder over a bunch of rocks and sheep which I think "cost" $1.19 Billion at the time, over 250 British members of the British Military Force and the ongoing maintenance costs of military defence guessed at ? £1million per week.

Seems like "tory delusional vanity", which is still prevalent and obvious to many in its present leadership.

Dil - 24 Jan 2019 16:50 - 11912 of 12628

No one noticed when British Leyland went on strike George.

Weren't they the ones where the night shift built hammocks and went to sleep all night ?

2517GEORGE - 24 Jan 2019 16:58 - 11913 of 12628

An alternative as to who really was to blame Fred.

British Leyland (Later called MG-Rover) was a conglomeration of some of the best known names in British car manufacturing, such as M.G.(Morris Garages) and Rover with Austin and Riley and Austin Healy and lets not forget Triumph and Jaguar and many more.

With such a pedigree of manufacturers under one roof how could this force of manufacturing houses fail? Well quite easily actually.

British Leyland suffered from start to finish with Union problems. Their strikes in the 1970s were staggering and world famous.

In a recent documentary one key union official was reported to have said “We used to call a strike over virtually nothing in the 1970s”

2517GEORGE - 24 Jan 2019 17:05 - 11914 of 12628

I thought the Falklands were inhabited Fred.

Haystack - 24 Jan 2019 17:19 - 11915 of 12628

The unions and Labour were bankrupting the UK. Constant violent strikes, rubbish piling up in the streets, people going unburied etc.

Even Harold Wilson wanted to curb the excesses of the unions. Barbara Castle publish a paper on how to control the unions entitled "in place of strife". Wilson couldn't get the plans through parliament due to the left wing of the party. It was up to Thatcher to do the job. It is significant that Labour did not repeal Thatcher's union laws. She passed laws that Labour secretly wanted.

hilary - 24 Jan 2019 17:24 - 11916 of 12628

I'm so glad all those dreadful things happened before I was born.
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