Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

No intelligent response as usual.

You can't help that, it was the schooling you received.

Stan , you didn't have to read about it in the press it was on tele too and in some places you could actually look out of the window and see the mounds of bin bags piling up on the street.

Callaghans legacy , what a guy.

British Leyland workers went on strike when management wanted to take 5 minutes off their courtesy tea-break.

Ha ha so out of the 10 years of that decade you site only two things to bleat on about...please try harder.

The fact remains that sticks in your gullets is that the 70,s was the most prosperous for the average working person.

Maggie had an idea and ran with it.
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Destroying unnecessarily a large amount of heavy industry and social communities.

The "revolution" could have been carried out more respectfully with regards to social cohesion.

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In the view of many, she was also responsible for the Belgrano murder over a bunch of rocks and sheep which I think "cost" $1.19 Billion at the time, over 250 British members of the British Military Force and the ongoing maintenance costs of military defence guessed at ? £1million per week.

Seems like "tory delusional vanity", which is still prevalent and obvious to many in its present leadership.

No one noticed when British Leyland went on strike George.

Weren't they the ones where the night shift built hammocks and went to sleep all night ?

An alternative as to who really was to blame Fred.

British Leyland (Later called MG-Rover) was a conglomeration of some of the best known names in British car manufacturing, such as M.G.(Morris Garages) and Rover with Austin and Riley and Austin Healy and lets not forget Triumph and Jaguar and many more.

With such a pedigree of manufacturers under one roof how could this force of manufacturing houses fail? Well quite easily actually.

British Leyland suffered from start to finish with Union problems. Their strikes in the 1970s were staggering and world famous.

In a recent documentary one key union official was reported to have said “We used to call a strike over virtually nothing in the 1970s”

I thought the Falklands were inhabited Fred.

The unions and Labour were bankrupting the UK. Constant violent strikes, rubbish piling up in the streets, people going unburied etc.

Even Harold Wilson wanted to curb the excesses of the unions. Barbara Castle publish a paper on how to control the unions entitled "in place of strife". Wilson couldn't get the plans through parliament due to the left wing of the party. It was up to Thatcher to do the job. It is significant that Labour did not repeal Thatcher's union laws. She passed laws that Labour secretly wanted.

I'm so glad all those dreadful things happened before I was born.

I was at Longbridge in the 70’s. The unions were all powerful and the senior management impotent.

I remember the day when I needed a new window winder mechanism fitting to a protype car in the Expermental Department. To achieve this feat of automotive engineering required a man from the trim shop to remove the door casing followed on a day later by a man from the Electrical shop to unplug the electrics, followed a day later by a man from the mechanical shop to remove the window mechanism.

This was reversed by the same team of highly skilled operatives to install the new part. When I casually questioned the local shop steward as to why this was so he explained that these men had families to keep and needed to protect their livelihoods.

When I suggested I could have done the whole job in under an hour myself I was told in no uncertain terms that a member of staff using tools would bring the whole of longbridge to a halt and subsequently my time with the company.

My line manager went white when he heard what I had said to the shop steward and I was banned from going on the shop floor till further notice..

Happy days.

The problem with gods and goddesses is that on close inspection they often have legs of clay.

But it is sometimes fun finding out that their strengths were actually weaknesses.

Also, to recognise and be able to laugh at one's own weaknesses.

The EU and the Yanks just wanted the British to hand over the Falklands against the wishes of the people, just like they want to keep Britian in the EU, against the wishes of 52% that voted for a Clean Break.

I bet they would love the rights that go with the surrounding waters of not only Britian but the Falklands as well.

And when Ted Heath brought in the 3 day week the unions went apoplectic saying there was no way their members would work the extra time without a pay rise.

What exactly is a 'window winder mechanism'?

A peeping Tom?

George.

Yes.

Approximately 10,000miles from Little England.

Possibly, better to have bribed the inhabitants with £1million each and allowed Argentine to have the rocks.

8-)

No need to worry your pretty little head over such practical things Hilary

Oh Martini, you're such a tease!

So it's not an antique Rampant Rabbit then? Without batteries??? Quelle dommage!

Back to the kitchen - it's time for some Indian spiced chicken and cauliflower. I know my place!

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