for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

eric - have to admit didn't understand a word of your post - are you sure it was virtual pot that you had? Remember, Thai sticks (I'm sure Alan H '68 does!) lol :)))

tfb (Thai for bed)

sd

Just squelched Shamona

oh dear - the normal rampers - trying to ramp - Walmart and Natureworks - and saying its SE0 - LOL -

Natureworks kindly supply - PLA to SE0 - as they do - to many others - SE0 is just one company - who buys PLA - from Natureworks - the relations of Natureworks - with other companies - is of no real benefit to a small customer of theirs like SE0 - end of ramp.

There is no news - from Walmart - as promised by the rampers - of them using or testing - Starpol 2000 or Greenseal - the rampers promised this week - and its not happened - so far this week


A couple of lines of my earlier post - some months ago - you see - its all old news -

Biodegradable and compostable films try Innovia

http://www.innoviafilms.com/tools/whatsnew.htm

try Ecofilm

http://www.ecofilm.com/

try NatureWorks

http://www.natureworksllc.com/corporate/nw_pack_food.asp

This link below may shock a few people - but Walmart and the likes have been working with many other companies since early 2004 this update of 1st August 2004 shows where things were moving then - and if you research the companies mentioned you will find they have moved on much further - and doing well - this was about the same time that Stanelco launched their ambitions in this field - however come June 2005 SEO are still struggling to find a market and still far behind the others - people still dream - but the world has moved on. DYOR.

http://www.modplas.com/inc/mparticle.php?section=worldtour&thefilename=worldtour08012004_01

Brandname + whoever is interested
US WIRE - There seems to be some confusion - this is how I understand it. Hope it helps.

NatureWorks deal -
Cargill, Inc. (who own NatureWorks LLC) supply the corn (we call it maize) based starch resin to SP Metal, who own 50% of Biotec of course.
Biotec produce the Greenseal/Starpol 2000 film.
SP Metals thru' Stanelco Inc. supply the film to Natureworks LLC -
G. Mondini Spa - supply the RF tray lidding m/cs if required to Cargill Inc. (or NatureWorks LLC) using Stanelco's PLC's technology.

NatureWorks European "PLA" Trial -
"BRUSSELS - 5 October, 2005 - NatureWorks LLC
In the past year, the company has experienced successful market launches with leading retailers and brand owners including French retailer Auchan, .... and the Belgium retail grocery group Delhaize". (Brussels Sprouts included!!)
They are also into bottles with U.K.-based water brand Belu.

NB Asda (Walmart) - The sole aggreement only applies to the UK.

NB Starpol
Starpol 2000 has been fully approved for all food categories throughout the European Union.
Approval has also been granted for Starpol 2000 for all fruit and vegetable categories in the USA, with tests continuing for all other food types to U.S. FDA. ie Meats, fish etc.

Aide Memoir - Stanelco is an IP company -
That means they have Patents and IP protection rights coming out of their ears! They have combined their expertise in RF technology, RF applications and biodegradable materials to create a revolutionary range of packaging technologies. They have partners to produce the materials and contractual partners to manufacture the sealing machines, retro-convert PET m/cs, and provide service back-up to food suppliers. Some of these partners may be manufacturing etc. under a licence agreement.
NatureWorks "PLA" has a relatively long term biodegradabilty or needs to be recycled - they currently, are offering a "BUY BACK" option to short cut recycling!! (Expensive logistically! - or just PR!)
They presented at the Phillidelphia Conference yesterday with Walmart and Stanelco were also there. So although they appear to have competing products you shouldn't view this as a conflict, more a progressive move for their range. Their clients and maybe Governments will decide which products suit their needs best.

Snippet - Walmart have invited the Pakaging press to the Chicago Pack. in October to announce their latest "below-the-radar" packaging technologies and products. What on earth could know that we don't already know????!!

DYOR - IMHO etc
Good luck, Ynot

I have watched this with interest ,,seems that people don.t care for Shamona who has called it bang on ,but welcome back PM1 ,who gets it all wrong ,,,strange ,and i thought it was about making money..

No RNS = Bad news short term methinks - but long term - this just gets better and better

Baza

Morning all, morning Baza. You sound chirpy this am. Hope you had a good meal out last night.
Alan

And yet another industry fair, packaging etc.

Are these fairs increasing due to the rush to find alternative packaging or is it a matter that they have always been around at this volume, but with following SEO we now notice them more.
I wonder if SEO will be represented at this one.

Industry fair showcases
10:41' 20/10/2005 (GMT+7)

Another fair on November 4-7 will be for plastic, rubber, packaging, printing and food processing industries, drawing 154 exhibitors.

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/biz/2005/10/502079/

Would obviously be great to get an RNS today but I'm in no rush. If we are expecting one today re a Walmart tie up I would have thought it more likely that it would be just pre the Dow's opening.

I don't think we will see an RNS on starpol for 3 weeks, when the 30 day exclusivity runs out, but I am usually about as wrong as it is possible to be, so its over to the wind and waters of Baza and Boz.
Alan

Me waters have been contaminated this morning with a fair drop of alcohol last night and an excellent night out - so I am not predicting anything - other than another couple of paracaetomol in a couple of hours time

Baza

Agreed Alan the starpol trials are our next target.

I feel we may be introduced to some new SEO products but not complete with customers.

And even if new customers were introduced at the show it would be weeks while the small print was covered. Sit back and enjoy (or try to!) the ride in the meantime.

maxbubble of ADVFN says we are mentioned in sharesmag. Any subscribers who could give an outline?

You can get access to the article via the headers at the top of this page - but basically Alistair Hodges is reviewing Eric Magnuss's Portfolio in the "My Favourite Five" feature and recommends that Eric who is 88, should sell SEO (at 13.5) as he thinks that the share has been hyped on the back of the Asda deal and he is not convinced that the sp will be much better after all the dust has settled.

I wonder what Alistair is thinking today - now that he can get 16p for them !!!!

Baza

Morrisons asks for six months' grace
Nick Goodway, Evening Standard
20 October 2005

A snippet from the article.

BRUISING price wars between the supermarkets saw Wal-Mart-owned Asda coming out worst in the latest figures from industry benchmarker TNS.


Asda's share of the UK grocery market slid from 16.8% to 16.7% in the 12 weeks to 9 October as Tesco shot up to 30.3% from 28.1%. Sainsbury's and Somerfield showed marginal gains at 15.6% (15.4%) and 6.0% (5.7%) respectively. Morrisons is still struggling with poor comparative figures a year ago, showing a decline from 13.4% to 11.4% but up from 11.3% last month.

IMHO Asda need greenseal/starpol to roll out even more urgently to enable them to regain a few points. Every saving where a percentage can be passed back to the customer is vital.

Am I the only person on here who has missed a couple of points?
Just been browsing Pauls Stanelco site, for the first time ever (so much for me practising the DYOR bit!).
Two things are mentioned that I was totally unaware of and I am not even sure if they are years out of date or recent, so help me out guys.
1) BNFL have RF machines for installed for sealing gauntlets?
2) Sainsburys were looking to launch soup in Starpol packets, where the packet dissolves in the water and becomes part of the soup.

Have I misread these items, or did you lot already know about it and both things have died a death?
Feel a stupid day coming on here in Leeds!
Alan

Morning Hewittalan6

Never heard anything re 1, but RF sealing has been around for some time in one form or another. Item 2 was muted several months ago along with the idea of others where the items from soup to washing power packaging would dissolve with the contents to save packaging waste and be more convenient. To my knowledge these trials are ongoing along with the other multitude. I stand to be corrected if anyone has more recent updates.

The BNFL stuff is part of their old business and just about pays for itself now. This is nothing to be concerned about. I thought it was clearly spelt out but on checking the closest reference was from 2003 results:

Waste packaging

Stanelco's RF sealing technology enables customers to seal hazardous materials
in industrial grade plastic bags. Unlike heat sealing and other RF methods, we
can seal through liquids, dusts and particulates without burning the plastic to
produce a high integrity seal. We continue to anticipate sales from our new
waste packaging equipment in excess of 1m during the current year and have
received enquiries in excess of 4m.

We have also developed, fabricated and sold the first large scale version of
this equipment for sealing drums within industrial grade plastic bags - we have
in excess of 500k of enquiries for this version of the equipment.

During the second half year we expect to make our first overseas sales and to
begin benefiting from maintenance and service income as warranties expire.

Page 5 of 7 if you wanna know more Alan.

http://www.gloveboxsociety.org/files/tech_library/tech-11.pdf

I just read all the post from last night theres a lot of analysing going on about who is supplying who, even though I run the Research Page I can not suss it out myself there has been so many announcement this year its no wonder we are all a bit confused. What I do know is that SEO are thinking very big take a look at the SEO statement regarding French government decision to eliminate all non-biodegradable plastic bags by January 2010.

Biotec has the capabilities to pioneer, innovate and commercialize biodegradable plastic bags. With the support of its owners Stanelco and SP Metal, Biotec is well placed to benefit from the policy and will be able to gear up manufacturing and have the capability to meet the demands of the French market by 2010, which will be in excess of one million tons.

Its all on the Research Page.

http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread