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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 29 Jan 2019 09:37 - 11990 of 12628

The remaining Chuckle brother is looking for a new partner Fred.

Fancy getting out for a an hour or two each day ?

Fred1new - 29 Jan 2019 09:50 - 11991 of 12628

Have a referendum in Scotland and probably NI now, and if Brexit goes through in any recognisable form!

Martiini,

You shouldn't try to stir those few little grey cells that have left so much.

Bad for you.

Martini - 29 Jan 2019 09:59 - 11992 of 12628

Not what you said originally and I have always been happy for them to have a referendum on independace and preferably to go their own way, but they keep hanging on to the apron strings.

Dil - 29 Jan 2019 14:00 - 11993 of 12628

Hils , how's your Brexit charts looking these days ?

Tic toc.

cynic - 29 Jan 2019 14:05 - 11994 of 12628

worth watching parliament live on the box
for a change, the debate is interesting, and the end result unknown

Dil - 29 Jan 2019 14:15 - 11995 of 12628

I am.

What's Corby's amendment , 3 year delay to see if he can decide on anything ?

Dil - 29 Jan 2019 14:21 - 11996 of 12628

It's ok Mrs May just told me ... usual load of Corby wishy washy pile of nothing of any substance.

She giving Labour front bench a good kicking.

hilary - 29 Jan 2019 14:40 - 11997 of 12628

There's a 78% implied probability it won't happen on 29th March, Dilbert.

Why do parliament have to vote on these things so late into the evening? It's my bedtime by the time they get down to the nitty gritty.

Fred1new - 29 Jan 2019 14:42 - 11998 of 12628

I think T Maybe is emphasising the incompetence of the tory party's government for the last ~10 years and her own incompetent attempts as a negotiator.

She and her party are a joke and embarrassment to the UK.

Dil - 29 Jan 2019 14:45 - 11999 of 12628

Cheers Hil , so 22% got it right then :-)

hilary - 29 Jan 2019 14:46 - 12000 of 12628

I see that the Labour MP Fiona Onasanya has only got 3 months. On the upside, at least there's unlikely to be a by-election in a key marginal, but 3 months is a ridiculously short sentence imo, especially when you consider Chris Huhne got 10 months for the same offence and he pleaded guilty.

hilary - 29 Jan 2019 14:47 - 12001 of 12628

And what about the other 1%, Dilbert?

Stan - 29 Jan 2019 14:47 - 12002 of 12628

You're being far to generous Fred, they're simply not that good.

Dil - 29 Jan 2019 14:48 - 12003 of 12628

Corby talking bollox now , time to walk the dog.

Dil - 29 Jan 2019 14:49 - 12004 of 12628

He's making a fool of himself.

How the hell did he become leader ?

Dil - 29 Jan 2019 14:51 - 12005 of 12628

Honest Hils I didn't edit anything :-)

Serious , dog jumped on me as I was posting on iPad.

Fred , let me know if I miss anything.

Fred1new - 29 Jan 2019 15:04 - 12006 of 12628

Make it a long walk.

cynic - 29 Jan 2019 15:09 - 12007 of 12628

i too have got bored with corbyn, the man who at the outset wouldn't campaign with any heart to remain and now finds himself unable to put forward any meaningful proposal or alternate that doesn't alienate a significant proportion of labour voters

thank goodness he was never (and i hope will never be) in charge of any negotiations of any kind with eu

Clocktower - 29 Jan 2019 15:15 - 12008 of 12628

Post 12000 of 12006 - I guess she smiled at the Judge and maybe the judge did not want to inflict any more pain on the Labour Party.

Does Fiona Onasanya have children, that the judge considered would suffer, or were there other mitigating circumstance? So I do not think we can resolve which sentence was fair.

Fred1new - 29 Jan 2019 15:23 - 12009 of 12628

Manuel,

Remember you voted for Brexit.

Also, while I think your memory is slipping a little more every day, but T May is supposed to be PM and making the proposals for the "BREXIT" negotiations and the splits in her own party.

Also, the chaos which the UK is in is down to other tory incompetents, Cameron and Osborne, who were trying to hold a ragbag party together at the expense of the UK and taxpayers, by holding a falsely proposed referendum.

But I think what they have achieved, is the exposure of the tory party, its policies and party members' self-interests.

My guess at the next G/E the mess will be exposed to the voters who will boot out the tories into the long-grass and then make it pay some for the expense of the proposed fiasco.

----=-

Do you remember one of the leading Brexiter's CV

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5368817/MPs-expenses-Bernard-Jenkin-claims-50000-in-rent-on-farmhouse-owned-by-sister-in-law.html
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