Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

as i wrote above about fred .....
there's no point in trying to have a rational or balanced discussion with you as you are so full of bile, it overrides everything you ever post

Manuel,

You would be difficult to be balanced even lying down.

Not if my vote counts for anything Dil, He is a god send for the conservatives, any other half competent labour leader would have had them writhing on the floor begging for mercy by now. So as a card carrying member of the Labour Party he will continue to get my vote. Ooo Jeremy Corbyn the savour of the Neo Cons.

He just likes watching T. MaY digging her own grave for herself and the new neo-cons.

Perhaps, you can get rid of her and have IDS back as your leader into the wilderness?

"The Bell is tolling and it tolls for you and the tory party!"

As you don't vote for anything your opinion counts for sweet FA and your grammar is atrocious. Did you get an education? Look up tautology if you don’t understand.

One mention of Washer Women sit back and watch them turn up 😀

Martini - I disagree with your post 12023 as Fred views and opinions have to be respected even if you disagree with them, and there is no need to try to denigrate anyone based on grammer or education - show some respect.

Fred may well be far more intelligent than most on these threads and may have enjoyed and be enjoying an even richer life.

I bet his IQ gets him into Mensa if he wished.

Mesa - love it, what will I do for fun when this bb closes?

Spellin's every bit as important as grammer.

What is the difference between a mesa and a butte? Only the size. Some people around here are talking out of their mesas.

Martini.

I am aware of some of your obvious limitations and in order to get something into your thick skull it is often necessary to repeat the same thing many times in different ways to give you a chance to understand the contained message.

IT - very little it seems

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LOL Martini - Brain running ahead of the fingers - or problem spelling - take which ever you like.

I am surprised that your not already a fellow member of Mensa International.

He must be CT...It helped him to get employed at British Leyland..

Martini,
I believe I stated before on this BB that I was dyslexic and was “condemned” for such when in school as being lazy, although I was playing board 1 at chess for school and had reasonable results in Maths and Science.

Eventually, I found ways to a certain degree around my problems and the computer, wife, and secretaries and trying to learn the syntax of basic programming helped me learn a disciplined approach. But I am often amused by my scripts.

Dyslexia, maybe a family trait and one of my daughters developed the same problems, and until I approached the school had the same difficulties. She subsequently has achieved a BSc. Ph.D. and MSc. and programs in her field of Bio-informatics in multiple languages.

Now, I can accept my grammatical failures and other obvious failings without embarrassment and if you can’t, hard bloody luck.

O well that at least explains why you can’t vote, being unable to spell X in the voting booth is very limiting. My apologies for ribbing you about it.

Oh come on Fred there must be a lot more wrong with you than that.

I've had your card marked as a fruit case for years , you trying to say your not ?

Next time you vote Fred just pretend it's a map where you have to fill in the box where you think the treasure is.

: - )