Thanks..

Making much more sense now, I have looked for the using level2 posts in both Traders and Inversters rooms, cant find nothing, if anybody comes across the using Level2 thread please let me know

Sorry, I will try to shut up soon...

If only AT prices effect the price and most are O trades, then when people go spazzy (now theres a word) about ramping, well how would people ramp a share when most trades are O, am I correct in saying O shares are what most peoples would be if they buy from say TDWaterhouse????

I'm assuming some large late sells from the institutions after 4-30pm, is prob. the reason for this not creeping up a bit?.IMHO

Any thoughts????////

Agreed fairford, there have been a multitude of buys, but price is being depressed buy a large seller. Give this a few days to clear up before buying.

News from this evenings Standard

I ESPECIALLY LIKE THE 3RD FROM LAST PARAGRAPHS COMMENT BY MR ALLAN!!!!



Thus pulls plug on its call centres
Steve Hawkes, Evening Standard
9 July 2004

THUS is quitting the call centres business in a shake-up that will delay the telecoms group's move into the black.


The Scottish Power offshoot is selling its loss-making centres to put more cash behind its core voice and data business.


Chief executive Bill Allan said the sale of the interactive division, which makes money from scratchcard competitions, may not be far behind.


Thus will be in profit towards the end of the financial year to March 2005. Two months ago, Allan was hoping for profits across the second half. 'We will be ebit [earnings before interest and tax] positive at the back end of the year,' he said today.


The group has been looking to sell the call centres for two years, after clients baulked at the idea of buying such services with a telecom package.


Murray International subsidiary Response Handling is paying 4m for the business. Allan said: 'The price is good for us and good for the shareholders.'


In a trading update, Thus said first-quarter cashflow was ahead of last year but it was still suffering from an increase in lower-margin business. Overall revenue was 'strongly in line with year-end expectations'.


It plans to access BT exchanges to target smaller and medium-sized firms. The shares today fell 2 1/4p to 20 1/2p.

wish it was closing at 20 1/2p ,


Aerotus...
That knocks my theory in the head.
7-5,million late trade............total of 62,million buys, and the blighter still keels over.
Whats a foot with these m/m's??

Have a nice weekend away from the shares....till 8-00am monday then////

From this level very possible. Reaction was well overdone as can be seen by the buying.

chrissie can we please change the title to "Are THUS shares about to halve?. I'm a holder but loosing heavily at the moment.

Azhar,
Quite right,
I'll go along with that, reiterating loses, we are being shafted by the m/m's yet again, more buys than sells and down again

Don't get sucked in by these Buys and Sells columns.
Every Buy is also a Sell, and every Sell is also a Buy.

Look for trend and volume.
Is the volume coming in on down days?
IE, more folk wanting to sell than buy that pushes the price down to attract
buyers.

Or is it coming in on up days?
IE, more folk wanting to buy than sell that pushes the price up to attract sellers.

MM's make their money on the spread. They won't want to take a position
unless they have a big buy or sell order to action.

IMHO, of course.

Melnibone.

Dont believe all you read .I sold a stack on Friday and all listed as buys .

And the last two 2.5m/2.7m look like buys to me?

Which way is THUS trending.
Stick a ruler on the screen if it helps.:-))

Which days have the high volume?
The up days or the down days?
Which way is the Macd indicating?

Melnibone.

thus shares to double ......thought i was doing nicely but just realise i have the chart up side down

Maybe management are standing on their heads. That's why everything looks OK. The statement wasn't meant to be a profits warning but all analysts saw it that way. How can you say that all expectations will be met and still see a 30% fall in share price. Is there any hope for us?

Thus is becoming more and more like a coiled spring. Negative sentiment and the failure to recognise Thus's brilliance has been going on for at least 9 months now. At some point in the future, there will be a SHARP correction, a rise of 50-100% within a week. This will happen when the final results come out showing a decent profit compared to the other flagging telcos. Only then will people wake up and show THUS and Bill Allen the respect they deserve.

Aerotus.
Go for it and tell the world (investors world that is) the sooner the your views are accepted by the majority the better.
This last week has been a disaster for THUS but the trend must surely change soon as this is a good company operating in a very competitive field, yet producing results as forecast and continuing to gain good new business on a regular basis.
Bill Allen continue on this format and THUS will be on a much different rating than it is today.

My views
opto

From www.Frequentrader.info (Monday 12th July) ...

"I see Thus (don't hold at the moment) is getting a bit of a battering. But at some point soon it'll start to look undervalued - keeping my beady eye open for a possible good entry point. Just watching for the moment."

1anT

what is a protected portfolio transaction see posting no. 118

mpw777,

To be honest I am no really sure - this is the description from the stock exchange if this helps:

Protected Portfolio
The transaction was reported as a protected portfolio or, was as a result of a worked principle agreement for a portfolio transaction.

I will try to get a more details explanation.

Ian