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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

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for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


Dormar - 24 Oct 2005 09:42 - 12116 of 27111

I notice that GM modified corn has been mentioned once or twice in relation to PLA, and by extension, Starpol.

Whilst I have no information on whether the corn used to manufacture PLA is genetically modified or not, my own feeling is that this is irrelevant ( at least in terms of the science involved ).

This is because the starch in the corn is first turned into natural plant sugars, before being fermented into Lactic Acid, which is then used to make Polylactic Acid ( PLA ).

Lactic acid is, well, lactic acid. It is exactly the same chemically whether the the corn was GM or not. It will certainly not conatin any genetically modified plant genes.

Think of it this way: If you distilled the water out of GM oil seed rape ( for example ), it would still be.... just water. It wouldn't be "genetically modified water".

This doesn't mean to say that the ignorant wouldn't seek to mislead the ignorant into thinking that it was somehow GM-tainted !!.

Cheers

D

Bugz - 24 Oct 2005 09:55 - 12117 of 27111

Baza

I'm 100% that SEO where at the conference.

I agree with your 'speculation' Alan - failing to produce an RNS last week makes me look to the end 30-day ASDA period too. I dunno where Greekman gets the number of 4 or more products for with Walmart, first I've heard of that figure, but if so, great! ;-)

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2005 10:01 - 12118 of 27111

Bugz - I agree with you that they were at the conference - it is just that from all the hype I would have expected to have seen some mention of SEO somewhere - and there has been absolutely no mention of SEO in any shape or form anywhere.

So it begs the question - why were they there. I cannot beleive that they just went to show their wares - there just has to be some other reason - that hopefully will result in some sort of announcement over the coming weeks.

Yes you are right - starting to get frustrated with absence of news - mind tomorrow is Tuesday - their favourite day for RNS's

Baza

hewittalan6 - 24 Oct 2005 10:06 - 12119 of 27111

Greekman set me off on my train of thought. It is highly speculative and should be taken with more salt than is good for you, but.
What if WM were placing an order with NW for the 4 things mentioned, to gain some sort of exclusivity for a product they really like and want, but were not prepared to buy any more until the results of a trial of Starpol were known with Asda. They would hardly wish to announse to the world that they were dangling NW on a string, and they could be using the trial and limited PLA order to play SEo off against NW, in the negotiating stakes.
This would account for the shortness of the Asda trial period, and the lack of RNS from USA. WM would be in a much stronger position if NW and SEO were ignorant of the position regarding the other, and WM are a famous bully of their suppliers.
Like I said, speculative and IMHO. But it may get someone else thinking who comes up with more realistic scenarios.
Alan

bosley - 24 Oct 2005 10:20 - 12120 of 27111

morning all. just to add my tuppence worth. seo were one of many showing off their wares at the exhibition in birmingham and at the conference in usa. so far we have heard of nothing that has come about from the uk exhibition and nothing from the usa conference. i don't understand the need for speculation when all it does is build up false/unrealistic hopes. why not just wait for news?

Dormar - 24 Oct 2005 10:25 - 12121 of 27111

Alan

This is my scenario.

SEO are negotiating with Walmart to take Greenseal and Starpol. But before announcing anything, three things must happen;

1) The results of the ASDA 30 day Starpol trial must be positive

2) If Walmart are to take Starpol, SEO will have to have the manufacturing capability for the sort of volumes that Walmart might need. ( although Walmart may well wish to have a staged introduction of Starpol in much the same way that they are dealing with natureworks and the phased introduction of PLA packaging ).

3) The FDA must give approval for Starpols use in relation to the relevant foodstuffs. ( timing unknown ).

This could take some time, but doesn't preclude the possibilty of SEO and Walmart announcing some form of tie-up in the meantime.

Could the next RNS be something to do with the manufacture of Starpol in the USA?

D

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2005 10:35 - 12122 of 27111

A sudden flurry of activity.

Now 2: 4 @ 15 : 15.5 and 95k : 400k

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2005 10:35 - 12123 of 27111

A sudden flurry of activity.

Now 2: 4 @ 15 : 15.5 and 95k : 400k

predateur - 24 Oct 2005 10:59 - 12124 of 27111

Bosley

I agree with you.

There is more speculation on this board than there is in the shares.

Predateur

greekman - 24 Oct 2005 11:44 - 12125 of 27111

hewittalan6

My thoughts exactly, although you have put it in a slightly different way, but it's basically what I was hinting at.

Baza,
The fugure of 4 was in the report via the link. As to my comment re Starpol and the possibility of far more orders than NatureWorls PLA, as has been stated, by me it is pure speculation and is as someone else said to be taken as such, ( with that mentioned pinch of salt ). But reading between the lines ( yes it might be through rose tinted glasses ) it does look promising.

The last view posts have been varied in their contents, many with opposing views, but isn't it great to have all these views well augued ( without the sometimes previously childish comments ). We appear to be all speculating at the moment, probably down to no solid news. Time will tell who is right.

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2005 12:22 - 12126 of 27111

Now 4:4 @ 15 : 15.5 and 245k : 300k

Bugz - 24 Oct 2005 12:45 - 12127 of 27111

Bosley,

I agree in part, at the end of the day nothing official has been released-however typically, with ANY company, information is seeping out and this points (obviously not the word of God!) to a Walmart deal-we all know this, and hope it!!

If people dont like the speculation, dont read internet BBs!!!!

Obviously we are all going to have to wait for news, but trying to get a jist of possible scenarios is not criminal.... :-)

KingKonggb - 24 Oct 2005 12:53 - 12128 of 27111

Even if or should I say when, we get some sort of deal with Walmart, don't expect it to be anything major. It's gonna be just a case of dipping there toes in first. Although the ASDA trial of Starpol will surely herald the way to a full blown committment.

IMHO

Kong

Obe2konobi - 24 Oct 2005 13:10 - 12129 of 27111

You should do the weather forcasts Kong. Covered your bases there didn`t you with the two sentences. :) Obe

KingKonggb - 24 Oct 2005 13:16 - 12130 of 27111

It's gonna rain all day, although it will brighten up in the latter part of the day. Just a risk of thunder and lightening!!!

Kong

Obe2konobi - 24 Oct 2005 13:20 - 12131 of 27111

I`ll wear my shorts under my rain coat then with rubber soled shoes.Ta. Obe

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2005 13:26 - 12132 of 27111

Must be in Florida !!

TheFrenchConnection - 24 Oct 2005 13:34 - 12133 of 27111

Amities Bugz.........Slt . Hence the origin of the adage " Buy on rumour . Sell on fact. What a boring place the marketplace would be if everyone only bought on 100% pure fact ....... ,,, As it happens i dont particularly like this stock; l think SEO have spread themselves very thin .But i let the market be my friend and after the recent weeks RNS coming on the back of T&G reckie of 21p and subsequent sudden leap from 14.75 to 18.5 was too much to ignore ...( as such i traded it in excess of 10 times ...,,,- and again as such it has once again become a true traders stock Thats not a nice position for true investors and totally distorts the true picture of SEO,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT ! lf this SEO is as good as many of you seem to think { and i was ONE of them up until recently } then PLEASE tell me why the big guns are not in the midst of battle. ? Why ? Thats a very SIMPLE question so please do not feed me that utter nonsense about a stock only " coming on the radar " of the big boys when a certain criteria such as its indices , m/c or s/p being attained . l know of more than 20 small minnows with an s/p of less than 8p where banks to lnvestment houses are backing them to the absolute hilt. Six of these 70% bank backed so why no instutional support for SEO ?? .Why ? @+ J ..

TheFrenchConnection - 24 Oct 2005 13:45 - 12134 of 27111

Bhunt ...Sincerest of apologies B if i have this wrong . But you are a fervent supporter of SEO are you not ? Then why would you be applying level 2 which is strictly a tool for day/short term traders ...Merely curious ...@+ J .....

Phart68 - 24 Oct 2005 13:48 - 12135 of 27111

From another board:

jwoolley - 24 Oct'05 - 13:30 - 53330 of 53331


Just had this reply from Neville Harris at Stanelco...all reads good to me. I am sure he won't mind me posting it on here:

James, apologies for the delay in replying ...Monday was my first day back
from hols and I had to be out again all day yesterday.

We will certainly update the market more fully when we issue a pre-close
update, sometime around the end of this month (the year end is October)and
if there is anything material before then, of course we will let folk know.

We all feel generally that there is quite a lot of "shorting" going on in
the market, particularly over the last week and in the short-term there is
not a great deal we can do. In the meantime, the company is working out the
best way to proceed with the starch filters project and is pressing on with
both Greenseal and the other products out of the Biotec portfolio.

Everyone at the company is just as frustrated as you about the share price,
but until the profits start to flow through, we must accept that valuing
Stanelco is more art than science and this provides hedge funds etc with an
opportunity.

We are all trying to be patient, but some days it's not easy!!
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