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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


TheFrenchConnection - 24 Oct 2005 13:34 - 12133 of 27111

Amities Bugz.........Slt . Hence the origin of the adage " Buy on rumour . Sell on fact. What a boring place the marketplace would be if everyone only bought on 100% pure fact ....... ,,, As it happens i dont particularly like this stock; l think SEO have spread themselves very thin .But i let the market be my friend and after the recent weeks RNS coming on the back of T&G reckie of 21p and subsequent sudden leap from 14.75 to 18.5 was too much to ignore ...( as such i traded it in excess of 10 times ...,,,- and again as such it has once again become a true traders stock Thats not a nice position for true investors and totally distorts the true picture of SEO,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT ! lf this SEO is as good as many of you seem to think { and i was ONE of them up until recently } then PLEASE tell me why the big guns are not in the midst of battle. ? Why ? Thats a very SIMPLE question so please do not feed me that utter nonsense about a stock only " coming on the radar " of the big boys when a certain criteria such as its indices , m/c or s/p being attained . l know of more than 20 small minnows with an s/p of less than 8p where banks to lnvestment houses are backing them to the absolute hilt. Six of these 70% bank backed so why no instutional support for SEO ?? .Why ? @+ J ..

TheFrenchConnection - 24 Oct 2005 13:45 - 12134 of 27111

Bhunt ...Sincerest of apologies B if i have this wrong . But you are a fervent supporter of SEO are you not ? Then why would you be applying level 2 which is strictly a tool for day/short term traders ...Merely curious ...@+ J .....

Phart68 - 24 Oct 2005 13:48 - 12135 of 27111

From another board:

jwoolley - 24 Oct'05 - 13:30 - 53330 of 53331


Just had this reply from Neville Harris at Stanelco...all reads good to me. I am sure he won't mind me posting it on here:

James, apologies for the delay in replying ...Monday was my first day back
from hols and I had to be out again all day yesterday.

We will certainly update the market more fully when we issue a pre-close
update, sometime around the end of this month (the year end is October)and
if there is anything material before then, of course we will let folk know.

We all feel generally that there is quite a lot of "shorting" going on in
the market, particularly over the last week and in the short-term there is
not a great deal we can do. In the meantime, the company is working out the
best way to proceed with the starch filters project and is pressing on with
both Greenseal and the other products out of the Biotec portfolio.

Everyone at the company is just as frustrated as you about the share price,
but until the profits start to flow through, we must accept that valuing
Stanelco is more art than science and this provides hedge funds etc with an
opportunity.

We are all trying to be patient, but some days it's not easy!!

stockdog - 24 Oct 2005 13:50 - 12136 of 27111

Dormar - thanks for reminding me of my chemistry. But is it laevo- or dextro- lactic acid? As you know, I am sure, this comes in two chemically similar but physically differently conformed optical isomers. One form or other could well be favoured by GM methods. One form or other could well behave differently under RF treatment.

Don't want to play the boffin, but you have got me started on something that might be interesting to others.

boff dog

hewittalan6 - 24 Oct 2005 13:52 - 12137 of 27111

Tut, tut, TFC.
There are nos uch things as supporters of a stock in the pi game. We all just take a position, long or short, depending on our views. Are you trying to bait people?
Level 2 is not strictly a tool for anyone. in particular. It is a tool for anyone who wishes to pay for it, to use just as they wish.
I would have thought that such an esteemed trader / investor as yourself would realise that the quality of ones trading / investing is heavily dependant on the quality and quantity of tools at your disposal, and it would be a fool indeed, who didn't use a tool that was available to them, regardless of their own feelings about a stocks quality.
Alan

Dormar - 24 Oct 2005 13:53 - 12138 of 27111

TFC

Good question. One can only assume that those that have looked at it, have decided that there is still too much risk attached to this share at the current share price.

D

bosley - 24 Oct 2005 13:54 - 12139 of 27111

tfc. a good question and one in which there is no likeable answer. one reason could be that they haven't seen enough to believe in seo. there is an alternative to everything that seo do and maybe seo don't have enough market saturation to convince the banks and investment houses that their ideas are the ones that are going to win. so far , when they have needed money , they have managed to obtain it with support from institutions with no problems, so , you could say that they are being backed. also, considering how many times the banks and instituions get it so amazingly wrong backing dogshit companies , maybe it's not too bad a thing.

stockdog - 24 Oct 2005 13:57 - 12140 of 27111

agreed, interesting to debate why no big boys in SEO. equally interesting to debate the price you or I could buy at if there were. risk v. reward springs to mind. why is it that bears are always so mean-spirited with their use of language? sorry, off thread for a moment, but it's true isn't it.

sd

Dormar - 24 Oct 2005 14:02 - 12141 of 27111

StockDog

Your chemical knowledge would appear to be way above mine!

Are there really two different forms of lactic Acid?

D

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2005 14:22 - 12142 of 27111

Hi Frenchie

Yes I am a long term supporter of SEO - and for me - in the main it is an investment stock which I tend not to trade very often - having got my fingers burnt once or twice in the past.

However, I would describe myself as a novice investor with much to learn and was was given L2 as a freebie to play with by MAM recently - which I did and found that it helped my understanding of the market. Now I pay for it on a monthly basis because I think it is an excellent tool enabling me (I think) to time my purchases and sales better than previously. I have certainly made 3 or 4 trading decisions which have each in their own right paid for the monthly rental of L2. I have also used L2 to invest in CFD's - and these I trade.

I have a much wider portfolio than SEO - and these I tend to trade on a more regular basis - forwhich I find L2 very useful.

Some have suggested that it is not worth while investing in L2 - but I seem to be making money and I think (No - I know) that L2 has helped me make better decisions.

At the end of the day - I am retired, having fun and making money

Anything else I can help you with ??

Baza

TheFrenchConnection - 24 Oct 2005 14:24 - 12143 of 27111

Alan - Thank you for NOT answering my question. Bos . Thank you for attempting to answer something which is quite unpalletable . l am by no stretch of the imagination a specialist in this field of plastics nor that of RF tech. l often wander how i am still messing about with this stock when there r so many attractive ones out there . All l know is the citys attitude and when i quite literally quote my boss at work who says he " wouldnt touch it with a bargepole "..Couple this with the same MM who told me at a dinner party that he didnt rate BPRG @ 60p and this was when it was about 88p { i wrote about it at the time on the BPRG thread and everyone absolutely slated me so i gave up And then what happened ? ; and of SEO the same man tells me that it is his winter cruise - a bubble that had gone higher than any of them could dream .........Now set against that environment it is inevatable l will pose questions which many of you may find unpleasant . Lest you forget i was red hot about SEO @ 4.75 .....and expressed it as i saw it at the time .... ....l wish you all well but its not a question of Tut Tut Alan . lts a question of answers,,,Not muddying the waters and having a poke at me ... Think about it ,,,@+ J

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2005 14:28 - 12144 of 27111

ok Frenchie - I am always looking for the next stock to invest in - so what would you suggest would be a good opportunity right now.

Cheers

Baza

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2005 14:32 - 12145 of 27111

Also Frenchie - I am happy to share the info with others if they find it useful - when I have the time

Now 3:1 and 15 : 15.5 and 195k v 100k

Perhaps - just perhaps - a tick up due (update - got that wrong - now u c why I am a novice)

Baza

Bugz - 24 Oct 2005 14:47 - 12146 of 27111

Fair play TFC,

Views differ of course. I myself am in on seo as a close friend is a substantial holder-and to date we have called it right on most occasions. The recent bear raid though wasnt seen!!!!!

I know a few brokers like your boss, who arent fans. Great, your MM friend called BPRG right-doesnt mean he'll call this right-although its clear to see that most MMs are being tipped off just before big news is announced-prehaps his view will change overnight one day!

As I think Alan said or Greekman, only time will tell .... :-)

insiderinside - 24 Oct 2005 14:50 - 12147 of 27111

a good question - from TFC - but an even bigger question - when was the last - director buy - so many new directors - and directors holding ZERO shares - in SEO - why are they all not buying more - or buying their first holdings of SE0 shares - or are they waiting - for the price to drop down - to become an investment - as they feel - its overvalued at the moment - ???

All IMO - DYOR !

W1sefool - 24 Oct 2005 14:52 - 12148 of 27111

TheFrenchConnection,

if you have any uncertainties relating to SEO, any of the products or any questions...why not contact Howie and ask him ?

What i dislike (like it matters) is people slating the company without any facts.
So far would you not say they've made considerable progress ?

Bugz - 24 Oct 2005 14:52 - 12149 of 27111

ii,

Are you suggesting that the directors hold no stock?

insiderinside - 24 Oct 2005 14:54 - 12150 of 27111

no Bugz - not all - but some of them - hold no stock - why are they - not buying in now - if its all going so well - and the future is so bright ???

W1sefool - 24 Oct 2005 14:54 - 12151 of 27111

Insider,

You de-ramper !! if your SO concerned, why don't you e-mail the chairman ..no that would be to pro-active for you, better to just de-ramper...easier hey. Tosser !

insiderinside - 24 Oct 2005 14:55 - 12152 of 27111

no director buys - no institution buys - even at 12p recently - they must think - its not cheap - at that price - !!
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