Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Don't see why the rest of the country should subsidise Cornwall.

8-)

I couldn’t agree more Fred, they’ve got to have more than good light to attract a few artists down there.

Cornwall is literally cut off by rail when the rail line gets washed away in bad weather at Dawlish...if there’s one thing I can’t stand it is us tax payers subsidising loss making Countries in this Country 😂😂😂

1270. He's done it again George. Prize plum. Stan, your mother should be ashamed of herself for allowing you on this site unsupervised.
As for you Fred, you need to watch the company you keep. You know the saying.
As for scraping the barrel, remember this?

It.

I think the voters will remember the present tory period as one of the worst and unnecessary periods of austerity and misgovernment in the last 60years and due to the personal greed of those more advantaged individuals at the expense of the most disadvantaged.

They will remember as this tory period attempting to destroy the NHS, Welfare and Social Service by self-interest, but destructive neo-conservatism.

The loss of police forces, Law and Order and personal security due to tory cutbacks.
The decline in educational standards and the destruction of the expectations of the younger more motivated younger voters.

And, if Brexit goes through, they will realise that Brexit was a sell-out of the UK by a populist lying Neo-cons elite leading to alienation of "little england" from Europe. The product of a tory elite led initially by Cameron and Osborne and seized on by T May and cohorts in an attempt to hold herself in power the con artist party together while losing any remaining respect in the political World.

(Much of the above may be put down to media manipulation.)
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My guess is, that at the next election, there will be a recovery in the Lib/Dem vote, increase in the SNP's vote, increases in Labour and smaller party votes, which will probably lead to a coalition government, with the hope of clearing up some of the mess which was produced by vanity of its present leadership.

The response to Brexit?


Nissan 'U-turn' expected on new X-Trail SUV in Sunderland

The Sunderland plant opened in 1986
Nissan is expected to announce that it is cancelling a planned investment at its plant in Sunderland.

In 2016 the car maker said it would build the X-Trail SUV in Sunderland after receiving "assurances" from the government over Brexit.

The company is expected to say investment will be now be pulled, rather than existing work being halted.

Labour MP for Houghton and Sunderland South, Bridget Phillipson, spoke of her concern at the prospect.

Image Copyright @bphillipsonMP@BPHILLIPSONMP
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"If confirmed, this would represent deeply troubling news for the north east economy," she tweeted.

"So many jobs and livelihoods depend on Nissan's success."

BBC business reporter Rob Young said: "The reasons for the investment cancellation are not known, but the industry as a whole has been warning Brexit uncertainty might hit investment."

The Japanese company refused to shed light on the situation. A spokesman said: "Nissan does not comment on rumour or speculation."

When the investment was initially announced, the company said hundreds of jobs would be created at the plant.

Work on the Qashqai - which makes up the majority of Nissan Sunderland's work - is not expected to be affected. The Qashqai is the best-selling crossover in Europe.

Good job the Remoaners told the truth, none of those scare stories have panned out.

Tax payer, what's that Stan, we're so far away from Westminster the tax system has not reached us yet.

The reality is it does reach Cornwall but only to the wealthy, and you voted Tory George so you and people like you are to blame for the appalling lack of funding to Councils up and down the Country.

You can keep subsidising Wales for as long as you want Stan and can we have Scotkands share too please if they ever bugger off ?

Thank you England.

Ah yes Dil Wales and Cornwall have both benefited more than anyone from being in Europe but voted out...W and C the suicide Regions 🙄

Give the EU money and get half back , yeah real winner that is Stan.

Sunderland Central 60.0% voted leave
Washington and Sunderland West 61.9% voted leave
Houghton and Sunderland South 62.6% voted leave

I'm tempted to say let them reap what they've sown, but I suspect they're gagging for a People's Vote in Sundeland now.

Dil,

With the 'other half' of your money, you get access to a massive market right on your doorstep. It's a very small price to pay given the rewards.

Why don't you ask the City of London which, incidentally, generates 13% of UK GDP how they feel about having one of their arms cut off?

And anybody who thinks they're going to be better off as a result of leaving the EU has got rocks in their head. If there is any financial saving, it's not going to go into local communities, it's not going to go into the NHS, and you're certainly not going to pay any less tax.

Nobody in the UK is going to be any better off as a result of leaving the EU, but there are an awful lot who are going to be financially worse off. And given that Brexit is supposedly all about immigration, that's not even going to change post-Brexit as the UK needs migrants. Freedom of movement isn't a human right, it's one of the greatest gifts a person can receive, and you want to surrender it??

Hilary,

It is OK Dil and Theresa have another idea to present to Europe.

Hooray!

especially into switzerland provided you have significant personal wealth and won't wear hats that upset your neighbours

or,

Hils , with the rest of our money we get exactly the same as the other 27 members get which the overwhelming majority are being subsidised to get.

Wow , what a bargain.

Hey Dil, Talking of money recieved how about getting it this way..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-41880024/paradise-papers-lord-ashcroft-hides-from-trust-question

The last refuge of an off shore tax avoider, evader?...apparently he spent quiet a while in there before being coaxed out.

Good grief Hilary I had not realised that post Brexit I will no longer be able to visit any EU country. I think I had better think it out again.

I’m reviewing the situation as I type..

Unfortunately Martini, you will be able to visit other EU countries (only for periods of up to 90 days)!

However, the airline you use will have probably had to reorganise their share structure so that they have over 50% EU shareholders (applies to IAG, EasyJet and Ryanair). Or if you drive, you'll need an IDP and be subject to increased checks. That's aside from the 3 yearly permit you'll need to buy in future once they get the system in place. And of course, your EHIC card will no longer work.

So a bit like visiting the other 167 countries in the world.

How will I get by?