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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

skinny - 30 Apr 2013 16:09 - 12177 of 21973

Only dealing I do outside of SIPP & ISA these days is S/B.

What is this TAX of which you speak? :-)

Seymour Clearly - 30 Apr 2013 16:10 - 12178 of 21973

Interesting notes Skinny - I'm around 27% ytd part time on my ISA, just looking for capital growth stocks in my ISA, if they've got a good yield even better, SIPP much slower!

Edit - agreed about the tax! Aim is to get a tax free income from yield on the huge capital I will no doubt have generated when I retire :-)

halifax - 30 Apr 2013 16:12 - 12179 of 21973

If only Osborne would allow all AIM shares to be included in an ISA .

HARRYCAT - 30 Apr 2013 16:19 - 12180 of 21973

Capital gains tax, skinny! Very occasionally I get caught. How is the spread betting going??? Isn't the theory that 'if it regularly made money for gamblers, HMRC would tax it?' ;o)

h, don't think that's likely as the stock ISA isn't really for high risk stocks. Don't really want to lose it all before I get to retirement age!

halifax - 30 Apr 2013 16:22 - 12181 of 21973

skin thought ISA's were intended to help companies to attract investment from "joe public".

skinny - 30 Apr 2013 16:23 - 12182 of 21973

Pretty good going SC - I agree about the ISA yield - its more 'secondary' to the capital growth for people of a certain age.

skinny - 30 Apr 2013 16:27 - 12183 of 21973

halifax - I don't know about 'joe public', but I only invest for me!

Harry the S/B is ok this year so far - I have had 'disagreements' with several companies over the years (like most people) and don't really want to say much more than that! :-)

Stan - 30 Apr 2013 16:36 - 12184 of 21973

Share dealing within an ISA makes good sense in general surely, only down side that I can see is that you can't claim any capital losses, answer?.. don't buy any losers -):

HARRYCAT - 30 Apr 2013 16:42 - 12185 of 21973

I have a large slice of LLOY in my ISA, so God willing and a fair wind, I should be well in the (tax free) money by.........hmmmm........hopefully in my lifetime anyway!

skinny - 30 Apr 2013 16:58 - 12186 of 21973

We can but hope Harry - I have a few in the ISA and a shed load in the SIPP.

I have a fair few RBS in the ISA - so will be watching on Friday.

Stan - 30 Apr 2013 17:04 - 12187 of 21973

Anyone know "exactly" how much we (the public) payed for Lloyds? around 70p I heard this morning.

maggiebt4 - 30 Apr 2013 17:08 - 12188 of 21973

Stan pretty sure it was 72p. Harry hope you're about 60 otherwise my lifetime will be up before I,m in the 'tax free money' with LLoyds

skinny - 30 Apr 2013 17:08 - 12189 of 21973

Average price is 63.1p apparently!

Taxpayer-backed Lloyds share price jumps as it records £1.5bn profits

"After last week’s collapse of the sale of 632 branches to the Co-op, Lloyds said its planned flotation of the newly renamed TSB should take place “sometime in the middle of next year”. The Government still owns 39 per cent of Lloyds following its £20 billion bailout in 2009. Even with today’s 2p rise in the share price to 55.5p this is still well short of the Treasury’s average buying price of 63.1p."

maggiebt4 - 30 Apr 2013 17:10 - 12190 of 21973

Bow to your superior knowledge Skinny!

skinny - 30 Apr 2013 17:12 - 12191 of 21973

Google - not me! :-)

maggiebt4 - 30 Apr 2013 17:16 - 12192 of 21973

Lloyds launched a rights issue to raise capital from existing shareholders – as an existing 43.4% shareholder, the government chose to take part in this and thus maintained its shareholding at 43.4%.[36][37] Following this, the National Audit Office has calculated the government's average buying price for its entire stake in Lloyds as about 74p.[38]
Taken from Wikipedia don't know how reliable that is!

maggiebt4 - 30 Apr 2013 17:17 - 12193 of 21973

Ok so it's anybody's guess ie anywhere between 63 and 74p

Seymour Clearly - 30 Apr 2013 17:21 - 12194 of 21973

Your return is very impressive Skinny. My wife uses a personal broker who returned 17.5%, which she's happy with.

skinny - 01 May 2013 07:35 - 12195 of 21973

GBP Nationwide HPI m/m -0.1% 0.3% 0.0%

skinny - 01 May 2013 09:30 - 12196 of 21973

GBP Manufacturing PMI 49.8 48.6 48.3
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