Moneylender
- 23 Jan 2003 08:09
rjs
- 31 Jan 2005 08:36
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> superrod. Exactly and this will mean a huge amount of shares coming in to the market on a regular basis as per last time 250K chunks I believe.
short of some amazing news (which hasnt happened before) the price is capped until the overhang is gone - which will be two years.
yuff
- 31 Jan 2005 08:54
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rjs
Just like last time rjs?
Think you had better do some research and see what happened last time GEM was announced?
pachandl
- 31 Jan 2005 09:27
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The sp went up on the announcement and then slowly went down as GEM "overhang" began.
yuff
- 31 Jan 2005 09:46
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pach
it went up for several months eventually hitting 32p a couple of months later.
GEM wasn't used for 4 months.
pachandl
- 31 Jan 2005 11:34
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Yuff - agreed but you are not comparing like with like. The sp went up because there was an amazing shorters' squeeze after GEM when it became evident that Tad would have the cash to survive (and invest). This time round there is little evidence of shorting (pre-rns) so the effect will be much more mooted. Also, (i) we now know the effect of Gem drawdowns, (ii) the effect is magnified by the low sp which contributes to increased dilution.
Don't get me wrong, I really hope that Tad has some excellent news over the next few months that rallies the sp, thereby reducing the dilutive effect of Gem, and creates a virtuous circle. But I have waited rather a long time for that to happen!
yuff
- 31 Jan 2005 11:45
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pach
Fair point, I do remember the shorters squeeze, wonder who got shafted there.
pachandl
- 31 Jan 2005 12:30
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Not me thankfully - but I doubt they got any sympathy from anyone either!
superrod
- 31 Jan 2005 17:21
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im a die hard tad fan, but this really takes the biscuit. the higher the price the less shares to be issued, but the bottom line is that GEM will sell into ANY rally and nick even MORE of our money.the lower the price the higher the dilution and the less likely a shareholder will ever get a return. i need to think hard ( but not too long ) about this.
ideally GEM will tip me off when they are about to sell so i can ride their shirt tails.
( wakes up screaming ).
Moneylender
- 01 Feb 2005 09:13
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Tadpole Technology Unit Secures New Contract
Edited Press Release
LONDON (Dow Jones)--Tadpole Technology said Tuesday that its subsidiary Endeavors Technology has executed an agreement with an OEM valued initially at $2.8 million, comprising licenses, royalties, support and maintenance services of the Endeavors AppExpress software-streaming platform.
The amount due during the current fiscal year ending Sep. 30, relating to licenses and support services, is $1.6 million.
An initial payment of $0.6 million has been received; $1.0 million is due in quarterly instalments at the end of March, June and September 2005.
The remaining balance of $1.2 million (of the total contract value of $2.8 million) relates primarily to minimum royalty payments and is due in quarterly instalments commencing December 2005 and ending December 2007.
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
February 01, 2005 04:10 ET (09:10 GMT)
pachandl
- 01 Feb 2005 10:05
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Finally some good news - someone actually wants to give Tad some money. Let's hope the management play this correctly and do not draw upon Gem too much until the sp has recovered, preferably to 12p+.
Moneylender
- 01 Feb 2005 12:41
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MARKET TALK: Tadpole Tech Frog Leaps 15% On Contract Win
1212 GMT [Dow Jones] Tadpole Technology's (TAD.LN) new contract win will drive forecast upgrades says Evolution. Analyst Lorne Daniel says contract "demonstrates revenues beginning to come through from streaming application business." Reiterates add on co, as "not enough visibility yet to push it to a buy." Tadpole +15% at 7.9p. (PAB)
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yuff
- 01 Feb 2005 14:29
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pach
I think the whole point is this contract negates the need for GEM now.
rjs
- 01 Feb 2005 14:38
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no it doesnt!! this contract hasnt just sprung up from nowhere - if this contract could pay the bills thn they wouldnt have negotiated GEM surely!!
pachandl
- 01 Feb 2005 14:42
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Have to agree with rjs - but with the contract becoming a reality it might defer the bulk of any drawdown until later in the year (by which time the sp is higher?). Grasping straws probably.
yuff
- 01 Feb 2005 18:31
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pach
You might agree but I think the chances are very high that rjs is wrong, this contract, even though tad knew about it last week, would not be taken into account for forward purposes therefore the accounts would not be able to be signed off, therefore funds had to be put in place, the quickest and easiest way and initially the cheapest would probably be GEM hence the announcement.
You only have to look at the funds coming into the streaming division along with Cartesia's profits to realise they don't have a funding problem now.
Moneylender
- 01 Feb 2005 19:28
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Also benefiting from a new contract announcement were shares in Tadpole Technology, which added 1.25p to 8.125p. It said that subsidiary Endeavors Technology had executed an agreement with an OEM valued initially at 2.8 million dollars, comprising licenses, royalties, support and maintenance services of the Endeavors AppExpress software-streaming platform. The amount due during the current fiscal year ending 30 September 2005, relating to licenses and support services, is $1.6 million and an initial payment of 600,000 pounds had been received.
pachandl
- 01 Feb 2005 20:44
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Yuff - we will have to agree to disagree. I cannot accept your explanation of events for the following reasons: (i) if Tad "knew" about the contract last week they would have halted any finalised Gem deal pending conclusion of the OEM agreement - esp as they would have known that the sp would be hit very hard, (ii) if Tad were optmistic about future revenues then they would not have signed any Gem deal - certainly not in the foreseeable future, and (iii) Tad claimed that Gem was simply insurance last time round because they were optmistic about securing deals - and we all know what happened. Clearly OEM is important news, although irrelevant if other deals are not secured in the next couple of months. I continue to hold, although I did halve my holding in Dec. I used all of that money to re-purchase at an ave of 7.28p so at least I have more shares for the same outlay - not that it helps if Tad go belly-up! Best of luck to all holders.
yuff
- 01 Feb 2005 21:13
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pach
LSE rules state that full year results have to be published within 120 days of the year end, in tadpoles case last friday the 120th day, how would the auditors of signed of the accounts if the SB money had been delayed slightly and nothing to replace it.
I can't accept tad could have said to the auditors its ok honest we are about to sign a $2.8m deal which will cover the shortfall and we will get $600k as soon as it is signed, ok David we'll take your word for it but you have to promise you will sign this deal otherwise we are guilty of mis - represenataion to the LSE.