cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
Shortie
- 03 May 2013 16:28
- 12256 of 21973
Why would you close a short position when an all time high has just been struck. If anything you'd increase your position as the probability of going higher is less than going lower on the basis that the markets have been lower before. Lets remember that the DOW is no reflection of the economy, its just 30 companies not the biggest or the most significant, its not a economy.
cynic
- 03 May 2013 16:34
- 12257 of 21973
shortie - i agree; certainly wouldn't be opening a long at these levels, and if i had one running, i'ld now be running a tight stop ..... inclination is certainly to short dow
jkd
- 03 May 2013 16:39
- 12258 of 21973
S
i am sorry but i don't follow your logic, my apologies if i misunderstand.
regards to you
jkd
tomasz
- 03 May 2013 16:40
- 12259 of 21973
bull market
Shortie
- 03 May 2013 16:47
- 12260 of 21973
jkd "but in mean time it means we need deep pockets to hang on to a losing position"
I'm saying I'd short the all time high so would only carry a losing position maybe a handful of points. Like Cynic says run a tight stop or my preferred method start small and build the position as it establishes..
The last time the Dow hit a high, in 2007, the Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank were already collaborating on a global economic bailout, and Bear Stearns collapsed six months later. Before that, the high was in January 2000, only about three months before the market started a long, ugly downward slide in the wake of the tech boom. Go back further, in 1987, when the Dow hit a temporary high before the recession of the late 1980s and early 1990s hit. In 1966, the Dow hit 1,000 and by 1967 the economy began a long downward slide into the stagflation of the 1970s and the recession of the early 1980s.
None of that, however, beats the Dow's high in September 1929, just weeks before the giant crash that ushered in the Great Depression.
It all proves one thing, the bubble is at its biggest right before it bursts..
http://www.infowars.com/the-dow-hits-an-all-time-high-translation-a-bubble-is-always-biggest-right-before-it-bursts/
skinny
- 03 May 2013 16:52
- 12261 of 21973
That's the second attempt at a high break this year - I'm staying short for now currently +9. (6,532)
On edit - that's 6,535.
cynic
- 03 May 2013 16:57
- 12262 of 21973
why short ftse instead of dow - or even both?
jkd
- 03 May 2013 16:58
- 12263 of 21973
just to clarify the latest posts
i wonder how many sort of crossed in the ether and who, if we don't say so, is talking to who? i.e is S's post no.12256 is it addresed to me or to ahoj?
just looking for clarification. anyone who may have any problems with my responses and to whom they are adressed please let me know and i will correct.
thanks and good luck
regards
jkd
skinny
- 03 May 2013 17:01
- 12264 of 21973
cynic - the DOW tends to bite me more!
Shortie
- 03 May 2013 17:06
- 12265 of 21973
jkd post 12256 was for ahoj, only noticed your post after I had posted, sorry for the confusion.
Skinny, I'll second the bite on the DOW...
jkd
- 03 May 2013 17:12
- 12266 of 21973
S
that's ok thanks for your confirmation. it does happen and it's not your fault.
regards to you
jkd
bhunt1910
- 07 May 2013 09:46
- 12267 of 21973
I am still out - main reason is I have no cash having put it all on AMER in anticipation of a steady rise from here. Ho Hum
skinny
- 07 May 2013 09:51
- 12268 of 21973
skinny
- 07 May 2013 11:00
- 12269 of 21973
EUR German Factory Orders m/m 2.2% -0.4% 2.3%
ahoj
- 07 May 2013 11:02
- 12270 of 21973
Wow
Seymour Clearly
- 07 May 2013 11:13
- 12271 of 21973
Thinking about adding a miner or two to the portfolio e.g. BLT.
hilary
- 07 May 2013 11:45
- 12272 of 21973
You want extra mayo with that BLT, Floss? :o)
cynic
- 07 May 2013 12:11
- 12273 of 21973
chartists will tell you that ftse is now sitting right at the very top of its resistance band ...... now pays yer money etc
Seymour Clearly
- 07 May 2013 12:36
- 12274 of 21973
That's an epic idea Hils :-)
Shortie
- 07 May 2013 13:55
- 12275 of 21973