Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Fred1new
- 23 Jul 2009 13:00
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Isaacs, From now on, I will think of you from you as Mr Perfect!! Though for me, seemingly, a little short sighted unaware of your own imperfections and possibly hard of hearing.
Fred1new
- 23 Jul 2009 13:14
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Isaacs, Broaden your views.
The Israeli government is using the same bully boy tactics out of strength against the Arabs, as the fascists used against the Jews in Germany in the 1930 - 1945 period. Many seem to be chanting that they are the "chosen race".
Crazy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8160607.stm
Israel settlers burn olive trees
Ten people have been arrested during a series of disturbances caused by Jewish settlers in the West Bank after Israeli authorities removed an illegal caravan.
Two Palestinians were taken to hospital after settlers threw stones at cars and tried to block a road near Nablus in the northern West Bank on Monday night.
Settlers also set fire to a Palestinian olive grove in the area.
The caravan was part of an "outpost", a settlement illegal under Israeli law, which Israel has agreed to remove.
Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank are illegal under international law.
Right-leaning Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is under US pressure to halt
all settlement building and carry out previous Israeli pledges to remove the outposts.
But the settlers, many of whom say they have a God-given right to live in the West Bank, have threatened to impose what they call a "price tag" on such evacuations.
The Human Rights Group Yesh Din said this can include attacking Palestinians and their property "to create a price for each evacuation, causing Israeli authorities to think twice about carrying them out".
Police did not give details of the incidents in which the 10 arrests were made, but said they were from a series of "disturbances" across the West Bank.
At least 280,000 Jews live in settlements (with a further 180,000 living in East Jerusalem), established in the occupied West Bank with Israeli government backing, in contravention of international law.
Israeli activist groups say there are, in addition, about 100 unauthorised outposts in the West Bank, where Palestinians want to locate their future state.
On Tuesday, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that Israeli forces were drafting a plan to remove 23 such outposts in one day.
Isaacs
- 23 Jul 2009 13:31
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If I am short sighted and a little hard of hearing you are a deaf blind mute.
Fred1new
- 23 Jul 2009 14:32
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Isaacs, Seemingly, in spite of some professed training, you are still lacking insight.
Read 1237.
rawdm999
- 24 Jul 2009 14:53
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'Raw, this is your opportunity to shine. ' Sorry Fred been away. We've been over this before so I can't be bothered and if I shine any brighter I may inadvertently blind you (even now with your blinkers still on).
Fred1new
- 24 Jul 2009 15:35
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Raw, Self-adulation is no recommendation. Nor is self evaluation much value.
MrCharts
- 24 Jul 2009 15:40
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Fred1new
- 29 Jul 2009 14:36
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Where have I heard this before
"We don't intend to put them in ghettos, or limit their growth, they receive all the rights" Ariel Atias, Israeli housing minister
The article below is interesting.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8164755.stm
After Israel's housing minister called on Jews to move to the north of the country to stop what he described as "the spread of Arabs" there, the BBC's Katya Adler reports on the struggle for land in the area.
Sami Salameh has taken me to what used to be his home before the Israeli authorities flattened it.
Metal rods and slices of skirting board are all that's left, among an expanse of sun-scorched wild grass.
He has brought along some photographs and kicks the earth as he shows them to me. The wiry 65-year-old man is angry and emotional.
"When the house collapsed so did my dreams," he says.
He insists this plot of earth belonged to his family dating back to Ottoman times. But Israel has claimed it as state land. He is not allowed to build here now.
Mr Salameh's new home is in the Arab town of Majdal Krum, in northern Israel. It's illegally built, as is the whole neighbourhood. His family of 14 lives in three rooms. The sewage system is poor.
Mr Salameh's wife, Ashi, tells me the atmosphere in the house is listless and depressed.
He blames their birthright - living as Arabs in the Jewish state of Israel, he says.
"I lost everything when they demolished my house. If I had equal rights, I wouldn't be in this mess. Jewish communities get building permits easily. They have electricity, water, sewage, street lights and parks. How come they live like that and we don't?"
Just outside Mr Salameh's home, a group of boys plays football in the street. Their identity, like his, is complex.
They are Israeli but also Arab. Their families stayed put in Israel after its war of independence 60 years ago.
Israel's Basic Law says all its citizens are equal, but Israeli Arabs say some Israelis are more equal than others.
Neighbouring the town is the leafy, affluent, self-proclaimed Zionist village of Manof.
It is one of the growing predominantly Jewish communities encouraged in the north by Israeli governments since the late 1970s.
'No discrimination'
Northern Israel is home to the highest concentration of Israeli Arabs.
Etc.etc.
chabadnik
- 31 Jul 2009 12:19
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Fred-a simple question to you-have you ever visited Israel?
Fred1new
- 31 Jul 2009 13:42
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No. Also I am still alive but have an opinion about. but I have various opinions about death.
Also opinions about the validity and gainfulness about killing "innocent" people, whether they are Arab, Jewish, Americans or any other race or nationality.
Also haven't been to the South Pole, but from reports would "believe" it to be cold!
Fred1new
- 31 Jul 2009 13:45
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PS.. I wasn't in Germany or Poland during the years 1939-45, but believe much of the "objective" and accepted reports about what happened during that period.
fahel
- 10 Aug 2009 10:32
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The Arrivals pt.15 (Hollywood & The Promised Land)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ceR6Q8fKo&NR=1
fahel
- 12 Aug 2009 09:21
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SO CALLED Only Democracy in the Middle East Treats its citizens!!
Watch this Video and you judge!!
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=oF3gN4dLN18
Evicted Palestinians sleep on the streets outside their homes in East Jerusalem
Fred1new
- 12 Aug 2009 16:36
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This quote comes to mind!
"for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
cynic
- 12 Aug 2009 16:49
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was that written by God?
there's also one along the lines of he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword, which of course could apply almost equally to both parties in this "childish" conflict
Fred1new
- 12 Aug 2009 17:25
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Cynic, No it was typed by me. But I do see your point.
However, I wish the conflict was childish. Perhaps, the scale of damage and number of deaths would be less.
I think the best adjective to describe the actions of both/all sides is primitive.
cynic
- 12 Aug 2009 17:32
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i see plenty of asses but no jawbones thereof!
joking and silly/fun wordgames apart, the conflict is basically childish as are most - i.e. you've got a chocolate bar and i want it; if you won't give it to me, i'll bite you ..... sharing (aka compromise) works with adult adults