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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

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for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


bhunt1910 - 08 Nov 2005 08:10 - 12554 of 27111

ii - who's he ??

bhunt1910 - 08 Nov 2005 08:11 - 12555 of 27111

Expect to see the usual hike this morning and fall back this afternoon - although I suspect we will end the day a tad up

Baza

Oilywag - 08 Nov 2005 08:31 - 12556 of 27111

Rothschilds are not type of merchant bankers that will take on a mickey mouse job.

I think that there might be a half decent or better chance of SEO getting a useful some of money out of this deal if/when done both in an up front payment and with a royalty flow thereafter.

It is however, likely to take at least a year before a deal is concluded. So I wouldn't bank on the share price holding onto much of this morning's initial gains.

The oily one


bosley - 08 Nov 2005 10:20 - 12557 of 27111

oilywag, that was my reading of the rns. i think seo were being smart and saying that they are in no rush to sell as they feel this ip could be worth something. we shall have to wait and see if they are right.

bhunt1910 - 08 Nov 2005 10:39 - 12558 of 27111

Anyone got any contacts to substantiate/refute this claim.

It has a certain level of credance - because that would explain the reason we have not been getting news - on the other hand - it could be old news - now fixed

"Chap on III reckons Greenseal is a dud, works fine but can't seal nearly as fast as heat. His contacts are from the Youngs and Bluecrest factories, judging by his posts he seems pretty switched on and not deramping. The factories are on tight contracts and can't see the benefit of switching."

Baza

bosley - 08 Nov 2005 10:46 - 12559 of 27111

baza, he might be right and he might be talking out of his arse. i would have thought that something as basic as speed of seal would have been analysed in the tests earlier this year.

Bugz - 08 Nov 2005 10:51 - 12560 of 27111

Morning all.

Interesting RNS.

Just to add, had a chat a few days ago to a friend who is well informed that SEO have changed 'policy' in updating the market. Apparently HW has finally realised that having a constant RNS flow all the time doesnt help the sp in the long run-taken him a while! Although in todays release he couldnt resit wacking in a sentence like the one ii picked up!

There are mummerings that talks are happening with a massive fast food chain who got interested at the conference in the States-very preliminary though.

Other than that, not much to add!

bhunt1910 - 08 Nov 2005 10:57 - 12561 of 27111

Bos - I would tend to agree - and I know it is a de rampers ruse to cast doubt - but I always take the attitude that there is never smoke without fire - so I am looking for a bucket of water to pour on it - or a wind to fan the flames. Either way I am loooking for some facts - hoped that someone in the industry might have pcked up a whisper - or not - or know who to contact ?

Either way - I would hope it is either old news or a teething problem to be overcome - and there will be teething problems regardless of how much testing you do - ask BMW/Mercedes/Ferrari

Baza.

baza

KingKonggb - 08 Nov 2005 10:58 - 12562 of 27111

Bos,

Have to agree with you on the subject with the tests. The whole idea of trialling the new Greenseal technology would have covered all aspects, including speed etc. Just the deramp crowd finding usual bollox info.

Kong

insiderinside - 08 Nov 2005 10:58 - 12563 of 27111


i did say - why bother with Greenseal - look to them using new HIGH SPEED sealers - and also warned - look for the move into something new - and rampable - Biotec - to let people forget Greenseal - was I just trying to point you to the light ? - yes - the RNS today - is total nonsense - ultimately in the future - which century is that ultimately - the director sell tells you everything !


bhunt1910 - 08 Nov 2005 10:39 - 12558 of 12560
Anyone got any contacts to substantiate/refute this claim.

It has a certain level of credance - because that would explain the reason we have not been getting news - on the other hand - it could be old news - now fixed

"Chap on III reckons Greenseal is a dud, works fine but can't seal nearly as fast as heat. His contacts are from the Youngs and Bluecrest factories, judging by his posts he seems pretty switched on and not deramping. The factories are on tight contracts and can't see the benefit of switching."

Baza

KingKonggb - 08 Nov 2005 11:04 - 12564 of 27111

You talk some bollox II.

Kong

Tonyrelaxes - 08 Nov 2005 11:14 - 12565 of 27111

I agree with King - on both speed and bollox.

Although not in any way dismissing Greenseal let us not forget is not the only SEO product for the future. Presumably not their main one - as they chose a while ago to change the name of their headquarters address to "STARPOL TECHNOLOGY CENTRE". That must indicate their real hopes for the future.

bosley - 08 Nov 2005 11:38 - 12566 of 27111

ii, over the last few months you have posted basically every possiblity and alternative, so , of course you mentioned high speed sealers. rather than point us to the light all you ended up doing was muddying the waters. also, whenever someone posts a positive, unsubstantiated rumour you are first on the scene with your rant of hype, ramp, jam tomorrow type post. this poster claiming to know that greenseal seals slowly, do you know him? do you know if he is genuine and truthful? no, of course you don't but you are quick to use negative, unsubstantiated rumour to back up your own negative posts.
come on , cock, you can't have it both ways. either all rumours , negative and positive, are treated with sceptism until it is shown to be fact or fiction, or we believe any and every claim someone posts.

driver - 08 Nov 2005 11:48 - 12567 of 27111

This from pm1 on G/S speed.

Greenseal generally runs at comparative speeds to heatsealing except under circumstances where there is an unusually thick material or a heatsink material like foil trays where typically greenseal will run faster.

Regards,

Howard

bhunt1910 - 08 Nov 2005 11:56 - 12568 of 27111

Bos - I tend to ignore ii - no integrity - and from what I heard from others he tends to do more harm than good as it appears that people have a tendency to believe the opposite of what he says - but generally I ignore him.

However - the post from Howard was exactly what I was looking for - a comment direct from the horses mouth - so to speak - so I for one am happy for the time being.

Thanks Driver/paul

Baza

garyble - 08 Nov 2005 12:26 - 12569 of 27111

I presume that Starpol sits higher than Greenseal by virtue of the fact that not only does Greenseal create the need to switch to Starpol, but there are far wider applications. So even though Greenseal has the world-beating potential with an initial boost to revenue, its a quick win with possibly limited royalty period.

Starpol then takes over as the standard with continued revenues......

Tonyrelaxes - 08 Nov 2005 12:49 - 12570 of 27111

garyble

my thoughts too.
At the EGM Ian Balchin said they were presently concentrating on "low hanging fruits". Greenseal could well be this in terms of quicker revenue generation. It is of course an intro to Starpol. SHARES magazine suggested potential Greenseal revenues to be in terms of "mind boggling" numbers - so what could SEO income be if Greenseal is merely the carrot to get Starpol take up?

greekman - 08 Nov 2005 13:50 - 12571 of 27111

bhunt1910,

Re the greenseal info ie running slow. I have read this on several boards over last couple of days. My reply was if there was such news, SEO would have had to declare same by now, as if true the sp would be badly effected. None of the posters re this so called slow running can state where this info has come from. The running, sealing speed of the system would have been one of the easyest sections to check. I fully expect the shorters to realy press hard from now till Friday pm as if all news is good on the 30 day end they will have missed their chance. Imho scaremongering .

Biscuit - 08 Nov 2005 13:58 - 12572 of 27111

Greekman,
I wouldn't even bother replying to it, it's justthe usual suspects in their being negative while trying to appear positive mode. Strange how it's the same people each time.
Biscuit

TheFrenchConnection - 08 Nov 2005 15:19 - 12573 of 27111

Amities mes amies / Slt ,,,,,Second only to my passion for trading is floating riverboat poker . As such i call every hand on its merits.l have seen fortunes lost on what should have been a winning hand; and vice/versa ..People allow themselves to be psyched out by silly nuances and idiosyncrasies of their opposition . Same with shares. People sell on some inane comments made by someone they have never met ; and where they in fact to meet such people they would probably run a mile. Every day brings a new hand and as such one readjusts ones position . Out of neccassity !! For one cannot ignore market dynamics . Now to my mind - SEO @ 4.75 was a dream come true ; but at 32p had ran away with itself ,and was heavily overbought, and hence constituted an excellent "short " . And as such i shorted it down from 22p to 14p . But what with every new days trading you are dealt a different hand ;and i am of the opinion that being in todays market at the 13p/14p level renders me more potential upside than downside. The stock is learning to stand on its own two feet with support of a kind at 13p or so ..As for this utter nonsense that Greenseal runs much slower than heat sealing systems is an utter misnomer; and i would ask the poster to DISCLOSE his source . Upon failing to do this i can give no validity to his comments . None whatsoever. lf that were the case SEO would have been a complete non starter ....and considering that such information is extremely price sensitive i would have expected SEO would have been forced into alerting the market, via RNS, to this news . ,Over the past 2 years , l know i have had mixed feelings about SEO and am the first to admit such a fact . l have been long and short in equal measure ,,,, But im afraid ii @ 13p ill raise you boy ....Your not in the playground now so dont get so personal ,,Je vous previens -,,mafiez-vous des apparences. ,,,@+ J
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