bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
Red Erik
- 13 Nov 2005 18:27
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SEOs filter does most maybe all that the BAT filter does but SEOs has the bonus of being environmentally friendly
With the huge scale of manufacture of the cigarette giants a 50% saving on filter materials over 5 years is likely and worth around $6Bn in savings and patent sales are based on values such as that
There are plenty of other companies interested in SEOs filter just come back in a few months time and see 50p added to the price from that alone
blinger
- 13 Nov 2005 18:36
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ROTFFMFAO@50p added,!!!!!!!!
There wouldn`t need to BE an auction if anyone thought it was worth anything,
dear, oh dear ,clouds and cuckoos
willib5
- 13 Nov 2005 18:48
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RED ERIK
Would you please post an article showing the evidence that you are claiming
bosley
- 13 Nov 2005 19:00
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,2769-1869301,00.html
willib5, your link doesn't work. also, it's pretty much the same article as the ones we saw last week. taking out 3 toxins will not make a ciggie safe, nothing will. seo have to push the green issue and the litter problem caused by discarded fag ends. but maybe it will be filtronic who show interest in buying the ip. ......just a thought and nothing more.
willib5
- 13 Nov 2005 19:32
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Bosley.
I copied and pasted the link ( sorry about that), however noticed you found it anyway.
I agree with you, cigarettes almost impossible to make safe.
However as the move has been made, inevitably a marketing campaign is sure to follow.
What I was trying to show was that it wont be based on a bio degradable filter tip, If SEO product doesnt do what the Trionic product does.
Consequently SEO are going to have to push the green issue.
Time will tell
hewittalan6
- 13 Nov 2005 19:42
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I can't recall SEO making any claim that this made for a safer cigarette (I may be wrong). All I've read from SEO say a more environmentally friendly waste from it.
If that stops Leeds City Council loitering around trying to fine outdoor smokers 50 quid for dropping a cig end, then its fine by me!!
garyble
- 13 Nov 2005 19:46
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trionic filter seems to have been around for at least 3 years:
http://www.trdrp.org/Docs/NCTOH%20New%20Products%20Handout.pdf#search='trionic%20filter%20cigarette'
garyble
- 13 Nov 2005 19:47
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bosley
- 13 Nov 2005 19:49
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seo did make a big deal of the toxins found in smokers lungs from the current filters and that some of these toxins arn't in the starch filturds, (rispeck ii), but i agree that trying to push a safe ciggie is daft. much better to push the environmental angle which nobody can argue with, dissovles to water in 60 days, can only be beneficial.
garyble
- 13 Nov 2005 19:51
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Cellulose acetate appears to be one of the three components within the Trionic filter, so still scope for starch based material within these filters.
blinger
- 13 Nov 2005 19:55
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Don`t hold your breath- oh and watch the SP tomorrow for the truth.
hewittalan6
- 13 Nov 2005 19:59
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As I read the part you refer to, boz, the only point it seemed to be trying to make was that fibres of the filters find their way into your lungs and stay forever, whereas starch based ones would break down, therefore being less harmful, but I may have missed the bit about toxins.
garyble
- 13 Nov 2005 20:03
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Blinger,
Curious, and what do you predict will happen tomorrow, and what would the "truth" be?
Just to be absolutely sure we/I understand exactly what you mean.
bosley
- 13 Nov 2005 20:15
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apologies, alan. you are correct. it is just filters getting into lungs, not toxins. i misremembered it.
see you in a bit, going for a fag.
blinger
- 13 Nov 2005 20:20
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garbyle.
I think the price will crash,
perhaps you don`t- its all in the lap of the Goods (no spelling mistake)
lol!!!!!!
predateur
- 13 Nov 2005 20:26
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Crash is a strong word.
Blinger, have you shorted.
If not, why not.
Let us have a direct answer, please.
garyble
- 13 Nov 2005 21:10
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Thanks Blinger,
I certainly hope it doesn't as I added another 335k on Thursday. Well you know what they say about a fool and his money!!
blinger
- 13 Nov 2005 21:29
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OH I do garbyle , we all do,fools etc.
Can we confirm you added another 335,000 SEO???????????
What time was the trade, did I mis it?
Predateur - guess which way I am invested, whatever ---its my business -ok?
garyble
- 13 Nov 2005 21:37
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Blinger,
If you really must know: 10/11/05 @ 10:13, 335k.
Not sure what purpose it serves you though.
garyble
- 13 Nov 2005 21:40
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I had halved my holding during the slide, but decided to top up as I believe we're now due a steady climb again.