for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

I spoke to NF a couple of months ago and they said that they were NOT using GS yet - and howard confirmed that later on as they were not top of their priority list. That was not to say that NF were not going to convert - just that they were not a priority supplier.

morning. somebody needs to start converting. it's still only 5 conversions.

Confirmation re the banning of Plastic Food Packaging in France. ( Confirms article of several days ago ). For full article see link.

http://english.www.gov.tw/TaiwanHeadlines/index.jsp?categid=10&recordid=88422

Restrictions on the use of plastic containers for various edible goods in supermarkets and bakeries are expected to begin by next February, the Environmental Protection Administration said on Monday.


The trial revealed that the alternative packaging was similiar to plastic packaging regarding strength, hydro preservation, weight load and temperature needs.

Businesses found to not be following the new regulations would be fined between NT$1,200 to NT$6,000.

How do we know it's only 5 conversions. I don't think they're gonna advertise every single conversion.

Kong

i don't want to get into all that again, kong. the last report from t+g said they expected 5 by end of october. as for not advertising every single conversion, they haven't because there haven't been any new conversions, we already knew about these 5. seo have put the t+g report on their site and haven't contradicted t+g's statement of 5 conversions. so, until we know otherwise, i think it's fair to say this is the number to stick to for the time being.

There have been comments somewhere - cant remember where - that conversions are going ahead at full pace - but that there have been delays because each new type of machine has taken up to 2 weeks to convert - and there are 25 ?? different varieties - also a shortage of machines to take their place whilst they are being converted.

Its all pretty irrelevant at the end of the day - in 5 years time - you will look back and the 3 month delay will be but a pin prick in time.

I see this as benefiting everyone - those who are skilled at trading and can call the longs and the shorts accurately (which is not me) will make money - those who are in for the long term - will also make money - but probably not in the timeframe that they originally thought - and most importantly - those companies that invest in the technology - will also enhance their ability to increase profits or remain competetive.

All in all - I think this company is a winner for all concerned

I think we might drop back a tad - possibly even to about 12p - until some revenue enhancing news is forthcoming.

Still holding for the longer term on current potential

Bosley,

If I remember correctly, the orders for the 5 conversions were announced before the commencement of the 12 month exclusivity period {28/07/05}, no other release of info on the rollout apart from a statement to the fact that they are progressing as planned and should be completed within the agreed timeframe.

So apart from the "fact" that 5 conversion orders were announced, its pure speculation to add anymore detail than that.

garyble, what other detail did i add?

Bosley,

You have stated "only 5 conversions" as if you know! I am stating you don't know.

There is seasonality in the readymeal industry:
"There are two key times of the year when we see a big lift in demand," says Anthony Penn. "One is in the springtime, usually just before Easter, and the other comes in the August/September period and is followed by a smaller blip as the Christmas market bites"

So I would expect October/November as the likely period to rush through any conversions in any event.

i do know there have been 5 conversions as this has been announced and i stand by what i said. surely,

"so, until we know otherwise, i think it's fair to say this is the number to stick to for the time being. "

and this,

"So apart from the "fact" that 5 conversion orders were announced, its pure speculation to add anymore detail than that."

mean we agree?

hi bosley just ONE question/ARE you out of your teens yet////

explosive - 14 Nov 2005 20:52 - 12776 of 12797
Alan - I can sometimes time them. I average 40% a year on the markets and soon will trade for a living...
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SEO down again-explosive profits available

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Greetings supperer,
I had an " Explosive " punt today on a spread bet, I `creamed` +5%, that made me an annual return on that share ALONE, of 1825% per annum- I am thinking of taking this up as a fool (sic) time job,yes heard it all before mate -yawwwnn- ( not at you)

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M&S signs up to Natureworks

Story published: Tue 15 Nov 05 11:01

Marks & Spencer is the first UK retailer to commit to the introduction of corn-based, biodegradable PLA packaging to its stores, from US-based produce NatureWorks.

The packaging will initially be used for M&S fresh-cut fruit and salad punnets and its sandwich skillets, as part of a commitment to a 'Responsible Packaging' strategy. Andrew Sharp, M&S technical manager said that responsible packaging is a key element of the chain's strategy.

"Packaging sells product," he said. "And when you divide your packaging up into what's recyclable and what isn't, it is really quite shocking."

For NatureWorks, the deal with M&S marks the end of a remarkable year of progress, which began with no major retail customers. Mary Rosenthal, global communications leader (pictured), told FPJ: "The volume of packaging we have sold is up 200 per cent, year-on-year," she said. "We are also working with Wal-Mart and Wild Oats in the US, Delhaize in Belgium, Auchan in France and Co-op Italia. The Wal-Mart deal really made PLA mainstream it will convert 100 million packages to our packaging."

NatureWorks has also launched a source options programme, which allows customers to specify that the PLA resin they order is free of GM content.


I cant remember where Nature works fits into the equation anymore ???- Help

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From memory, NW supply SEO with the basic PLA, which SEO turn into Starpol, some of which is sold back to NW(?).
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Alan

NatureWorks only supply SEO unfortunately! Their PLA is an ingredient of Starpol I think.

baza, terry robbins answers to nw questions from bema's list.

"7) What does the recently announced tie-up with Natureworks actually mean? Unfortunately the reports on this have been translated in many ways so there are several versions floating around the net.

PLA is a component of Starpol 2000 material and we have secured an ample supply from Natureworks

8) Are we just buying material from Natureworks for use in Starpol that we sell to other companies or are we supplying Natureworks in any way?

Natureworks LLC, a Cargill company is a supplier of PLA to us. It is likely that there will be some joint promotion

9) Does SEO/Biotec intend to manufacture all Starpol or do they intend to license the IP?

Both

10) Are Stanelco producing Starpol for Natureworks?

No

11) There are various statements around regarding Starpol. It is claimed that both Natureworks PLA and Starpol are compostable. In particular I had been lead to believe that Starpol would decompose on my own compost heap within 6-8 weeks. As PLA is the main ingredient in Starpol and has since been shown to only compost in temperatures of 135 deg F or 57 deg C (well above a normal compost heap temperature) can we have clarification on the conditions required for Starpol to decompose.

This will depend upon the grade of Starpol and what it is made into. Starpol 2000 is certified to the biodegradable standard DIN CERTCO and EN: ISO: 13432. However Compostability is dependant on degrading within a given time frame and this is related to mass. A thick wedge of material will biodegrade, but may take longer than the given time to compost. Should the same mass be shredded it could compost and be certified to do so. PLA does not easily compost in a garden compost but this again is dependant on size and heat generated within the compost. In a small cool garden compost PLA will probably not biodegrade. "

at worst, news like this shows major retailers starting to show a bigger interest in bio packaging. it has been around for some years but now it is making news. it will be interesting to see what asda say and do about the starpol trials.

bristlelad, no