Nitefly
- 15 Sep 2003 10:55
Why are we again at 10.5p bid?
It doesn't add up...
Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop
Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!
Why sell now at a loss?
Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!
Best of luck all.
apple
- 02 Jul 2004 10:49
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Times July 02, 2004
Rumour of the day
RETAIL DECISIONS, the payment processing systems developer, dipped p to 17p, despite stating that first-half trading has met forecasts. Daniel Stewart, joint stockbroker, repeated its buy advice, citing the shares 45 per cent discount to the sector. Sharing its frustration, directors are said to be considering a Nasdaq listing or buyout if the rating remains low.
Well, we are up again so far today.
Tokyo
- 02 Jul 2004 11:15
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They are considering a buyout? What is this exactly, they are considering, letting someone else buy them out? Wasn't it only earlier this year they said they were not interested in a take over bid, at these prices?
Can anyone shed any light here? Moneyplus/fundamentalist?
pachandl
- 02 Jul 2004 11:23
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Buy-out, I think, means the management buying the share cap and taking the company private.
Fundamentalist
- 02 Jul 2004 11:41
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Yep
Management getting external funding to allow them to buy out the company and hence remove it from the stockmarket into the ownership of themselves and their creditors
moneyplus
- 02 Jul 2004 12:29
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Lets hope they go for the Nasdaq listing as shareholders always seem to get stuffed if the management go for a buy out!!
apple
- 02 Jul 2004 12:40
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If it is a management buyout then we will no longer be able to wait for 90p in the next few years but we should still do very well.
pachandl
- 02 Jul 2004 13:11
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If it is a buy-out then I would assume an initial offer of about 27p.
Fundamentalist
- 02 Jul 2004 13:17
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Cant see the initial offer being more than a 50% premium to the current share price. I would expect it to be 17.5p + 30% = 23p ish. where do you get 27p from pachandl
pachandl
- 02 Jul 2004 15:29
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Fund: if RTD is at 45% discount to peers (ie 30p fair value? approx), and the management are confident about future prospects, then 27p seems a reasonable starting point.
Douggie
- 02 Jul 2004 16:50
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OG delighted to comply a good day (I'll not spoil it by saying may it be the first of many)shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. [I wonder if I could get the board of CYH to follow RTD example,many simularities that share is realy getting stuffed]
have a great w/e all best wishes Doug. :O}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
apple
- 02 Jul 2004 17:00
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Douggie
Please edit your post & put some spaces in your smile.
Your smile is too wide & means we have to use the horizontal scrollbar to read messages.
Douggie
- 02 Jul 2004 19:48
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ooooooooooooops sorry didn't know that could happen.
by the way I have often wondered why I'm the only one with 'edit' on all my posts ???
prodman
- 02 Jul 2004 19:52
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Douggie - Well all have the edit facility, but we can only see our own.
edit. and edit our own. :-))
Douggie
- 02 Jul 2004 19:58
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thanks prodman another tiny bit learned. ;o))
apple
- 02 Jul 2004 23:15
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Thanks Douggie.
:-))
You wouldn't want others to edit your messages & put frowns into your mouth now would you!
Tokyo
- 03 Jul 2004 07:35
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glad I topped up last week when the prices were low. Does anyone really think the management will go through with this buy back scheme?
Next week is going to prove very interesting
pachandl
- 03 Jul 2004 12:44
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HL's Penny Share Prophet (yesterday) also tips RTD as a buy, predicting pre-tax profits of 6.5m for yr end, and a prospective PER of 11.7. I hope the last trading statement, suggesting that trading was in line with expectations, was not an attempt to cool the market prior to a declared management buy-out. I assume not but I was a bit surprised the statement did not at least say "trading at the top end of expectations".
Flackwell Vialli
- 04 Jul 2004 09:27
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Pachandl - There are many ways in which the statement can be interpreted - However, there are also strict rules to follow in releasing statements to the market - Perhaps the most likley conclusion is that trading is therefore in line with market expectations, no more/no less, and is NOT therefore at LEAST at the top end of expectations, as that would be misleading.
That is not to suggest that a later statement will not be forthcoming.
pachandl
- 04 Jul 2004 11:39
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FV - please read my previous post properly - I did not say "at least at the top end of expectations", I said that I was surprised the trading statement did not at least state "trading at the top end of expectations". The quotation marks are rather important.