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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

halifax - 17 Sep 2013 16:49 - 12945 of 21973

Friday is quadruple witching day!

skinny - 17 Sep 2013 16:54 - 12946 of 21973

Double Witchings, Triple Witchings and Werewolves

cynic - 17 Sep 2013 16:55 - 12947 of 21973

that'll be exciting and unpredictable then :-)

skinny - 17 Sep 2013 18:08 - 12948 of 21973

These days its only worth putting in wide limits on the indexes.

cynic - 17 Sep 2013 18:38 - 12949 of 21973

i don't put any

skinny - 17 Sep 2013 18:41 - 12950 of 21973

I do :-)

cynic - 18 Sep 2013 08:46 - 12951 of 21973

NMX 3720
succumbed to "itchy finger" and bought back that contract at 10307 with the intent of trading it - profitably i hope - during the course of the day

Shortie - 18 Sep 2013 11:22 - 12952 of 21973

DOW - I'm now running short.

Seymour Clearly - 18 Sep 2013 11:41 - 12953 of 21973

Picked up a few UU. for the ISA this morning

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=UU.&Si

cynic - 18 Sep 2013 17:02 - 12954 of 21973

i could easily be wrong, but ftse at 6554 looks like a modest support level ..... provided the dow (in the persona of MrB) doesn't scare us all, then i would favour the likelihood of a rise tomorrow - more likely starting this evening on the back of the dow

a good firm equivocal prediction don't you think? :-)

Seymour Clearly - 18 Sep 2013 17:29 - 12955 of 21973

I agree. I think. Possibly. :-)

cynic - 18 Sep 2013 20:00 - 12956 of 21973

did i make a good call or what :-)) ?
dow currently +170 and ftse +80

Seymour Clearly - 18 Sep 2013 20:01 - 12957 of 21973

I knew it would. :-)

skinny - 18 Sep 2013 20:22 - 12958 of 21973

Short @6,633

cynic - 18 Sep 2013 20:36 - 12959 of 21973

as for me, have just closed all dow/ftse except one small long position in both

hilary - 19 Sep 2013 08:21 - 12960 of 21973

1-0 to the machines.

It was all over in 1/1000th of a second!

skinny - 19 Sep 2013 08:24 - 12961 of 21973

I can't think what you are suggesting!

skinny - 19 Sep 2013 08:25 - 12962 of 21973

GoldChart.ashx?w=800&h=300&hours=120&curGoldChart.ashx?w=800&h=300&hours=24&curr

hilary - 19 Sep 2013 09:36 - 12963 of 21973

Actually, skinners, I'm not a big fan of the 'Us and Them' conspiracy theory, and I very much doubt that any more than a handful of people were privy to a sneak preview of the release.

It only takes the first player who has seen the news to react and take the offer and put a bid in its place causing the price to break from its range, and that will trigger 100's (if not 1,000's) of algos into following the price action. Those algos won't have necessarily seen (or interpreted) the data as they will just be programmed to act like sheep and chase the price. It's almost certain that they will also be programmed to close out immediately the army of retail punters try to get on board and provide some liquidity for the algos to sell into. As per the Nanex data, this was done and dusted in a flash.

So, no great conspiracy theory from me, just an observation that the HFT algos won, and the retail punter who takes 650ms to press his mouse button (and 11 minutes to find the mouse beforehand) will have lost. I don't even think there was anything complex about the algorithms used - it is simply a case of the firms involved having super-duper hi-tech connections into the liquidity pool to ensure they're the first to reach the offer.

Have you read this interview with a HF Trader?

cynic - 19 Sep 2013 09:36 - 12964 of 21973

now i'm in a quandary as to what to do next, even if it's nothing

my gut instinct is that both dow and ftse will continue north, but obviously not in a straight line - so shall prob wait for a "bad day" to add to my existing small longs

WPP, which i already hold, looks one to benefit further though i shan't add

international transportation index is worth looking at - don't know its NMX code - on the basis that world economies are now recovering and will be cheered further by the weaker $

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and have obeyed myself by taking the profit on my trading contract from 2 days ago in NMX3720

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