for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

As it is TM'd - I guess it is in partnership with SEO !!!!

Not suggesting anything - just asking if anyone knows more.
It would be interesting to know what the relationships are.

Maybe we are a customer?

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Possibly - but they do elsewhere refer to themselves being manufacturers.

Also they are attending various Fruit, Veg and Agricultural Products Trade Shows. (Starpol already has full FDA approval for fruit and veg) That suggests to me they are there for the purpose of promoting/selling products or processes to users. The service of developing chemical products is not of prime interest to farmers!

Either way it demonstrates SEO are not sitting around with their thumbs up their bums.

I see the same posts here relating to Lendell as on FYB so I'll copy my FYB post here as it may be of interest.

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I did point this out some months ago when everyone accused me of bashing (when I posted the Patent and Trade Marks info).

Here it is again - some definate conflict for 'STARPOL' in the States - possible problems in the UK if Lendell have been using the mark prior to Stanelco, even though Stanelco have obtained a registration.



Interesting in that Lendell filed this mark in the States in 1999.

The product similarity is too similar for Stanelco's adoption of the name to be a coindidence, surely?

Makes me wonder what Lendell's Patent rights are - I'll take a look when I've got a moment!



U.S. Trade Marks

Word Mark STARPOL Goods and Services IC 001. US 001 005 006 010 026 046. G & S: Inedible starch for manufacturing and industrial uses, namely as a component in wall treatments, adhesives, tile mortar, tile grout, oil drilling mud, and other water-holding, thickening, binding, rheology modifying, film forming, suspending, and protective colloid industrial applications. FIRST USE: 19770512. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19770512 Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Design Search Code Serial Number 76521364 Filing Date June 9, 2003 Current Filing Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Published for Opposition June 29, 2004 Registration Number 2885921 Registration Date September 21, 2004 Owner (REGISTRANT) A.E. Staley Manufacturing Company CORPORATION DELAWARE 2200 E. Eldorado Street Decatur ILLINOIS 62521 Attorney of Record Robert W. Sacoff Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Word Mark STARPOL Goods and Services IC 001. US 001 005 006 010 026 046. G & S: Polymer made from Toluene Di-isocyanate and Polyethylene glycol in the form of a viscous fluid for use in the manufacture of health care products. FIRST USE: 20010215. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010215 Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Design Search Code Serial Number 75868687 Filing Date December 11, 1999 Current Filing Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1B Published for Opposition October 3, 2000 Registration Number 2502952 Registration Date October 30, 2001 Owner (REGISTRANT) Lendell Manufacturing Inc. CORPORATION MICHIGAN LEGAL DEPARTMENT - NLM 5301 S. GRAHAM ROAD St. Charles MICHIGAN 48655 Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Word Mark STARPOL Goods and Services (EXPIRED) IC 001. US 006. G & S: INEDIBLE STARCH FOR MANUFACTURING AND INDUSTRIAL USE. FIRST USE: 19770512. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19770512 Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Design Search Code Serial Number 73128909 Filing Date June 2, 1977 Current Filing Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Registration Number 1085196 Registration Date February 14, 1978 Owner (REGISTRANT) A. E. STALEY MANUFACTURING COMPANY CORPORATION DELAWARE 2200 E. ELDORADO ST. DECATUR ILLINOIS 62521 Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR). Live/Dead Indicator DEAD

EU (including UK) Trade Marks

DETAILS FOR COMMUNITY TRADE MARK E3807096



Mark text:
STARPOL

UK case status:
Registered

Original language:
English

Second language:
French

Classes:
01, 07, 16, 17, 20, 21

Relevant dates

Filing date:
24.04.2004

Publication date:
14.02.2005

Registration date:
08.09.2005

List of goods or services

Class 01:
Natural starches and processed starches for industrial purposes; natural starches and processed starches for moulding into trays, plates or bowls.

Class 07:
Machines for moulding starch to form trays, plates, cups or bowls; machines for radio-frequency moulding of starch; machines for forming plastic films; machines for radio-frequency welding of plastic films; machines for making sachets from films or plastic material.

Class 16:
Films of starch-based plastic material or packaging or wrapping; sachets made from films of plastic material for packaging.

Class 17:
Films of starch-based plastic material for purposes other than packaging or wrapping; films of starch-based plastic material for use in the manufacture of plastic bags.

Class 20:
Moulded trays for packaging of foodstuffs.

Class 21:
Disposable drinking vessels in foamed starch; disposable trays, plates and bowls of foamed starch.

Names and addresses

Applicant:
Stanelco RF Technologies Ltd


Starpol Technology Centre North Road Marchwood Industrial Park Marchwood, Southampton, United Kingdom, SO40 4BL


Representative:
Peter Turquand Mansfield


329 Harwell Business Centre, Didcot, Oxfordshire, United Kingdom, OX11 0QJ





DETAILS FOR COMMUNITY TRADE MARK E4324364



Mark text:
STAR POLISH

UK case status:
New Application

Original language:
German

Second language:
English

Classes:
03, 44

Relevant dates

Filing date:
07.03.2005

Publication date:
29.08.2005

List of goods or services

Class 03:
Hair care and hair treatment compositions, namely shampoos, preparations for the bleaching, dyeing and tinting of hair, permanent wave preparations and neutralizers therefore, setting lotions, hair conditioning and rinsing preparations, hair sprays, hair styling preparations, hair foams, hair lotions, hair waxes, hair lacquers.

Class 44:
Beauty and hair dressing salon services.

Names and addresses

Applicant:
KAO KABUSHIKI KAISHA trading as KAO CORPORATION


14-10, Nihonbashi Kayaba-cho 1-chome Chuo-ku, Tokyo, Japan, 103-8210

Representative:
Christiana Pfaff

Pfungstter Str. 92-100, Darmstadt, Germany, 64297

Am I picking this up correctly, Starpol is not a Stanelco product but is infact licensed from Lendell?

The two different products are so similar they must be the same, we need answers?

http://www.lendell.com/Products/Chemical

The more I look the more it looks like Stanelco have stolen this idea and applied it to the EU market where it is not patent protected, this will mean it can not be used in the US.

Patent stealing seems to be becoming a theme if this is correct.

Just a thought, but if Lendall have had this product, and it is the same as Stanelcos since 1999, then why would it have gone for FDA approval?
Unless it is the novel application of the product that Stanelco are patenting / getting approved.
Answered my own question, really.
Ignore me. I'm going back to sleep.

Lendell's Patents here:-

http://v3.espacenet.com/results?IA=lendell&sf=q&FIRST=1&CY=gb&LG=en&DB=EPODOC&st=IA&kw=lendell&Submit=SEARCH&=&=&=&=&=

Lendall = INEDIBLE STARCH

Stanelco = EDIBLE STARCH

There are loads of things called Starpol it is simply an adjunction of Starch and Polymer and is used by many starch polymer projects and products a simple google search for starpol brings up loads of them

There's not much point in going over and over each instance of Starpol in the world or we will be here for decades

See you all on Monday when the fun will hopefully begin
Erik the Red

Ah. Hence the FDA thingy. Well done Erik
Alan

Red Erik,

Yes, thanks.

Those knocking SEO will jump at anything that many will beleive. If anyone thinks that with the likes of Asda, ( and obviously Walmart being the parent company ) in the market for Starpol via SEO they would not have done the groundwork prior to the trial period re the ownership of the trial product, they must believe these mega size companies to be ultra gulible.

Greekman,

I hope you are not implying I'm trying to knock SEO - far from it, I just posted the info for those interested.

However, Red Erik is completely wrong by stating in effect that 'STARPOL' is a generic term.

We are talking about Registered Trademarks. Registered Trademarks give exclusive use of a Mark to the registrants. Generic terms cannot be registered. There is a real chance of commercial conflict here, like it or not. It matters not that one starch is inedible and the other edible. There is the real likelihood of confusion between the two - that is all you need for there to be a problem

And incidentally, my experience of 'mega sized companies' is that they are often very gullible when it comes to IP.

Do you mind not constantly repeating the "ROT....." etc on almost every post you make.
....

Yes I do object to not posting whatever and whenever I want-ok??
Would you please admit that SEO is a crock of cack, and will never do anything but attract rampers who failed to take a profit- nope

thought not.

Hey blinger, I'm all for you putting 'ROT' in a prominant place on all your posts.

It tells people what they're reading.

Jeez
reams of cut and paste , always a good sign for shorters, and the sleepy Russian is hard at work ramping- excellent, to paraphrase Joffre(?) ....

"Enemy attacking my flanks, gaining ground, situation excellent- am attacking"

and then lost 2m Frenchmen

oblomov,

Not implying just looking at facts as I see them. You must agree that several posters who do knock SEO do post anything they can to convince readers that they are a duff company. Whilst not always agreeing with your views, I have no problem with your posts as you do not use abusive language etc, so are as entitled as anyone re your views. The worst thing that can happen to any thread is for all posts to be positive. Negative views make for good debate which is what I hope your posts, mine and others acheive.
My view is as follows
As Red Erick states Starpol is simply an adjunction of Starch and Polymer and is used by many starch polymer projects and products .

IE from the Starpol Info pages.
Novel Polyol Intermediates Derived from Biosustainable Starch for Polymer Technologies - STARPOL ( Starpol is the name for any basic product constituting the above derivative )

Stanelco appear to have taken the basic principle and added 2000 onto the name to define their product.

Oblomov,
brilliant post , well up to your usual standard, we all admire you greatly, well as
propoganda to short SEO we do.

ROTFFLMFAC&BO

You haven`t got a clue, we all saw you getting a basic education in Level Two from that sixties singer Judith Durham, you are such a laugh, keep up the posts on filthyboots- I post them to my broker Killik and Co., I believe they have a weekly draw on the funniest poster- you win constantly,

OBLOMOV joined filthyboots on 08/06/2005 and ramped constantly- see the result?

LMFAO!!!!!!!

Greekman,

I reiterate - STARPOL is a Registered Trade Mark - Stanelco have it in the EU. It is NOT possible to register (and therefor obtain exclusive use) of a generic or descriptive term. The Registered Trademark is STARPOL - not STARPOL 2000. It has no added matter (such as a logo). Stanelco have exclusive use in law of STARPOL for the goods they have registered it for - in the EU.

Lendell have exclusive use in the States for the goods thery have registered it for - no buts.

What do you think the point of a Registered Trade Mark is?

And BTW, I posted the Trade Mark info in response to another post mentioning Lendell's STARPOL in the States.